Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edwin E. Wagner


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was  n o consensus. - Mailer Diablo 21:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Edwin E. Wagner

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A psychologist and the test he has invented. Is he notable or is this just an advert? Article has been speedily deleted once. -- RHaworth 16:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC) Thank you for your posts. I believe this man is worthy of this post. This is not advertising. This is my first post. What else do you need? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dgranvilleus (talk • contribs) 18:52, 4 May, 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment, the article might just need a visit to the WP:MoS. My Google search shows the guy exists. He has written books, but I don't see a biography on him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clerks (talk • contribs) 17:57, 4 May, 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete Searches for this thing seem to pull up only papers and books about this test, authored by Dr. Wagner. I did not find a single case of someone else talking about this test. Mangoe 20:25, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 *  Week Keep pending further checking. I find 51 GS hits, in a number of different journals, some of them refer specifically to his "Hand Test", and do  Differentiation between Acting-Out and Non-Acting-Out Alcoholics with the Rorschach and Hand Test. Journal of Clinical Psychology, v36 n3 p791-97 Jul 1980]. He has apparently published a very large number of minor papers. I'd normally consider him of borderline notability as an academic. However, there has been 1 published work devoted specifically to his theory, and a long evaluative review of a book about it that he co-edited. Technically, this meets our requirements. I rewrote the article to eliminate repetitive spam and include the references.  DGG 02:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see the re-write - did you save it? -- RHaworth 06:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

I assume the reason article was speedily deleted first time is because it included info on the price of Hand Test. That info has been removed. Is it ever appropriate to include this kind of info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dgranvilleus (talk • contribs) 14:38, 5 May, 2007 (UTC)
 * No, one normally links to it as an external link for the company or publisher.DGG 00:54, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And RHaworth has it right, it looks like I did forget to save. I've just redone the essentials,.DGG 00:54, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

DGG, Thank you for your reply and your excellent work that improved the article. I am learning from your work.
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 * Delete per nom. Stoic atarian 07:51, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, have a look for "hand test" and wagner on Pubmed . Multiple results from other authors referring to the test,, , ...Mmoneypenny 13:16, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per Mmopneypenny. Google Scholar shows numerous pubs in well regarded journals, and the Hand Test manual published by Thomas went into numerous editions. Edison 22:13, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


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