Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Efforts to impeach Joe Biden


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of efforts to impeach presidents of the United States. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  20:08, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Efforts to impeach Joe Biden

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This article is odd to me, as "efforts to impeach Joe Biden" do not appear to be so far along that we need an article for it. It looks like an WP:OTHERSTUFF to counterpoint Efforts to impeach Donald Trump. The entire content of this article is an off-the-cuff comment made by Joni Ernst that was made with politics in mind, Marjorie Taylor Greene's quixotic articles that will go nowhere with Pelosi as speaker, and a good-for-the-goose threat from Devin Nunes. This appears to be a topic that does not require its own page to cover. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:27, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:27, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:27, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep or move to draft. We go through this about every four years like clockwork. Ever since Bill Clinton, there have been efforts to impeach every President (and occasionally the Vice President), with varying degrees of success. It is important to note that these articles are not limited to Congressional efforts to impeach these officials, but include reliably reported community-based efforts to this end. There is no reasonable expectation for Biden to be unusual in this regard. Amazon is already selling "Impeach Joe Biden" t-shirts. BD2412  T 21:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Slight clarification on that shirt: Amazon isn't selling it, a third party seller is. And a t-shirt is not an attempt to impeach. Impeachment only happens in Congress, the public can't impeach. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:46, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Fine, Amazon is hosting it. The point is that it exists and promotes impeachment. Efforts exist, but are primarily low-level (except for Marjorie Taylor Green's resolution), but the exact same issue came up with Efforts to impeach George W. Bush and Efforts to impeach Barack Obama and Efforts to impeach Donald Trump, and all ended the same way—with the realization that reliably-sourced efforts at some level are inevitable. BD2412  T 21:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Almost ANY phrase can be found printed on some sort of product on Amazon. You can by a Niki Minaj for President backbpack on Amazon, does not mean that there is a notable grassroots effort draft Manaj for president. Not saying we should delete this article (I think we should probably keep it or redirect it), but a t-shirt in no way strengthens the argument to keep SecretName101 (talk) 16:37, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. The efforts so far have not been major enough, or gotten far enough along, to warrant their own article.  The existing List of efforts to impeach presidents of the United States article already mentions the Marjorie Taylor Greene action against Biden and that is sufficient for now.  Wasted Time R (talk) 21:55, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete/Draft There was one "effort" by MT Greene joined by nobody, not "efforts" beyond passing complaints. List_of_efforts_to_impeach_presidents_of_the_United_States would be an adequate redirect target but at the moment this does not warrant an article. Reywas92Talk 22:21, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete or rename Controversies involving Marjorie Taylor Greene (I foresee this one getting longer as time goes on). Wikipedia is not NutJobConspiracyopedia. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:18, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List_of_efforts_to_impeach_presidents_of_the_United_States as an appropriate target. Not enough to warrant a stand-alone article. --Enos733 (talk) 05:54, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Nunes only said there would be political pressure to do something based on events almost two years from now that might or might happen, he made no concrete attempts to do anything now. This is still an unneeded and premature article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:46, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: WP:TOOEARLY, as opposed to when Donald Trump was under impeachment attempts, Trump was about to get impeached many times, and had significant coverage. 🔥LightningComplexFire🔥 15:26, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Efforts to impeach Donald Trump was created on December 20, 2016‎ (a month before he actually took office), and moved to mainspace on February 28, 2017 (five weeks after his inauguration). BD2412  T 17:21, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * One difference is that the List of efforts to impeach presidents of the United States article did not yet exist at that point. Now it does, and it is the natural repository for any one-off or otherwise minor impeachment efforts, historical or present day, that are not significant enough to warrant a dedicated article.  Wasted Time R (talk) 17:48, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , I've never seen that page, I was talking about the 2021 efforts to impeach Trump page, which turned into an actual page about impeahcment. 🔥LightningComplex</b><b style="color:dijon">Fire</b>🔥 18:18, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Successor articles were broken out from the initial article that was moved to mainspace in 2017—following the first resolution by a member of Congress for Trump's impeachment. BD2412  T 18:20, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of efforts to impeach presidents of the United States, not a notable standalone topic, but there is no reason not to have a redirect. Devonian Wombat (talk) 23:42, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect or keep, a redirect to preserve the history (and the history of Efforts to impeach President Biden) before the article is inevitably restored. Ribbet32 (talk) 22:21, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:TOOSOON (although its bound to happen). Coolabahapple (talk) 03:07, 28 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of efforts to impeach presidents of the United States § Joe Biden per WP:TOOEARLY and NOTNEWS Shushugah (talk) 14:23, 30 March 2021 (UTC)


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