Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Egyptian Steel


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  08:21, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Egyptian Steel

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Our fundamental policies WP:What Wikipedia is not and WP:Deletion policy apply given the information and sources only exist as promotional listing content, and not we consider sufficient for notability, see sources: 1, 4 and 5 is company website, 2, 3, 6 and 7 are a funding report, and based on the sources then found here, they're still the same so none of it establishes independent reliable coverage, especially when quoted at WP:ORGIND and WP:GNG: [sources except] brief announcements of mergers or sales of part of the business, simple statements that a product line is being sold, changed, or discontinued, quotations from an organization's personnel, routine notices or passing mentioon. Trivial or incidental coverage of a subject is not sufficient to establish notability which is what everything found is. Considering the past G11 deletion not even a year before an equally promotional article is restarted is not a good sign that content can actually be improved, worse when there's no substantial coverage. Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 18:26, 20 July 2017 (UTC) Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 18:26, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:29, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Egypt-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:29, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. North America1000 08:04, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge to List of steel producers § Other major steel producers, which lists major steel producers. This will improve the merge target article. North America1000 08:09, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete and Redirect only if needed because it's on our policy to not salvage, save or otherwise keep contents considered still a policy violation and merging it would equally violate it because, since the current information and sources are listing-esque, that would make the other article a host or listing itself, therefore not actually resolving anything. Alternatives to deletion is, as mentioned there, not an immediate factor and can still be outweighed by WP:Deletion policy itself. SwisterTwister   talk  18:50, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. There 's no point in merging/redirecting to a list. This is not one of the very few areas where we try for a comprehensive list regardless of notability . If the list article contains other non notable firms they should be removed  DGG ( talk ) 09:36, 23 July 2017 (UTC) also.
 * Delete per policy statements above. Been fighting these COI-pushers around this and Hashima's article for a couple of years now. GenQuest  "Talk to Me" 16:59, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - I've also been fighting promotionalism at Ahmed Abou Hashima for some time, but I reckon that Egyptian Steel might meet WP:GNG, with coverage from Reuters, The Time and MSN amongst others - and that's just looking for English-language sources. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:27, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * These are all company announcements which are unacceptable as noted by the highlighted green quote above in the nomination, (Sources: 1st is about opening new locations, 2nd is about their financials and both are a clearly labeled company interview, and 3rd is about a sponsored commercial). FWIW, I had examined some Egyptian publications but found nothing announcements myself, so that's a likely sign there's nothing actually different. SwisterTwister   talk  21:34, 27 July 2017 (UTC)


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