Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eileen Simpson (artist)


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The result was no consensus. To delete, but consensus that, if kept, this topic should be covered at Eileen Simpson and Ben White.  Sandstein  16:45, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Eileen Simpson (artist)

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Even looking at the additional information in the earlier version containing copyvio, I do not se how this meets either the GNG or the specialized guidelines.  DGG ( talk ) 22:17, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
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 * It may be WP:TOOSOON The British Art Show is a significant exhibition that would satisfy criterion 4(b) of WP:ARTIST: (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, but it appears to have been the only exhibition of that calibre. Coverage in the Independent and Financial Times exists, but is not in-depth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mduvekot (talk • contribs) 00:24, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete According to WP:ARTIST she needs for her work to be "has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition". If her work The British Art Show is significant, then that would qualify her, however she is one of 35 contributing artists, so I wouldn' think that would be classed as significant. Deathlibrarian (talk) 13:06, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep and Move I did some digging and Simpson and her partner, Ben White, have been the subject of news articles over time and their work reviewed in journals, magazines and books. Of special interest is Struggle in Jerash (2009), which received a good deal of attention. They are also known for their Open Music Archive and creative commons advocacy. Obviously, I think the article should be moved to Eileen Simpson and Ben White or something similar since they are known for their partnership and would not be notable by themselves. Passes GNG and CREATIVE for reviews of their work. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:41, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * then hte best thing to do would be give it a try. I have no objection.  DGG ( talk ) 15:36, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:15, 13 July 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:52, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak delete: I have looked at this AfD indecisively several times over the past couple of weeks. Firstly I agree with that if this article is to survive it should be with a reframe/edit as Eileen Simpson and Ben White to reflect the basis for any notability. Secondly, on that assumption, while I recall visiting their British Art Show space at the Talbot Rice Centre, I don't see their selection to provide one of the more than 30 exhibits in the BAS as sufficient for notability in itself. The documentation around "Struggle for Jerash" is more plausible though, with some critical commentary on one of their works. However, having looked at that material a couple of times, I don't think it is enough for WP:NARTIST or WP:GNG though possibly merely WP:TOOSOON in their developing work. AllyD (talk) 20:24, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. I had a go at improving the article. It's really not about this one person, it is about the work that she and a collaborator have done. If the article was exclusively about their collaboration, and that collaboration had a collective name, and there were more references, it would be a good article. As a standalone article on an artist, it does not cut it in terms of available references, notability, museum collection, significant contribution to field etc. What they are doing is interesting, but it does not rise to the level of notably interesting activity that is supported by in-depth reliable sources.104.163.153.14 (talk) 03:40, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep and retarget to Eileen Simpson and Ben White as discussed above. A news search brings back a number of promising hits that could help expand the article; I have dropped in a couple of sources to help strengthen the couple's claim to notability. Although the primary focus in the Financial Times and Guardian pieces is on the British Art Show 8 exhibition, there are some other news hits for events elsewhere that could be used. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  09:41, 28 July 2017 (UTC)


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