Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ekaterina Geladze

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Ekaterina Geladze
Whatever is useful in this article should be put in Joseph Stalin. This character has no merit in her own right. Same for Vissarion Jughashvili his father. Plus very little is known about either of them, in the words of the articles. --SqueakBox 01:11, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Stong Keep. I disagree utterly.  There is much known and written about both Ekaterina Geladze and Vissarion Jughashvili.  There is fact, rumour, and the Communist Paty's propoganda, but several Stalin biographers have tried to sort out the real from the imagined.  While both articles may not yet be written very well, the parents of one of the most influential people of the twentieth century both clearly warrant a Wikipedia entry.  HowardB 07:05, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I have completely rewritten this article, and cleaned up/added to the Vissarion Jughashvili piece. Perhaps more can still be written, but I strongly feel both are legitimate entries.  HowardB 09:24, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Well done Howard B. We have an artice on Alois Hitler to discuss Hitler's origins and I think that is an appropriate precedent.Capitalistroadster 10:40, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Trilobite (Talk) 10:41, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Vissarion Jughashvili and then merge into Stalin or create a new article Stalin's family background. She at least was famous in her own lifetime unlike his father. I note his son Yakov Dzhugashvili has nothing, whereas I would argue he has a more rightful place as a separate article because of the huge effect Stalin's rise to power had on his life, and because he was well known during his own lifetime. --SqueakBox 17:10, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, but with reservations. Megan1967 08:32, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - David Gerard 23:16, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, as HowardB said, Ekaterina Geladze warrents her -own- entry, as does Vissarion Jughashvili. Both entries are worthwhile, and though small, have information and importance enough to make them independant entries. 216.75.190.106 23:28, Feb 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete both. Politic cruft. JamesBurns 10:02, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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