Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elżbieta Grabarek-Bartoszewicz


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:45, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Elżbieta Grabarek-Bartoszewicz

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Fails WP:NPOL. As for wider WP:NBIO/WP:GNG, coverage is limited to local (regional) Polish newspapers and news portals. She has never received coverage in country-wide media. And most of the coverage I see is in passing, or very court, and not that much about her, but about some projects she has been involved in. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:12, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 05:20, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
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 * Comment. The city of Gdańsk has a population of 464,254, which suggests that the chairperson of its city council may be notable. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 05:23, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, the corresponding article https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/El%C5%BCbieta_Grabarek-Bartoszewicz in the Polish Wikipedia at pl:Elżbieta Grabarek-Bartoszewicz is longer than this one. Here is a machine translation into English. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:13, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. The matter of which cities get to confer notability on their city councillors per NPOL #2, and which cities do not, is not determined by an arbitrary population cutoff: it is determined by whether or not external sources classify the city as a global city. Gdańsk does not have that status, so its city councillors (including the chairperson) do not get a free presumption of notability just for existing as city councillors — the notability test that she would have to clear is that she can be shown to have received significantly more than just the standard local media coverage that every city councillor in every city can always show, but with just five footnotes this isn't showing that at all. And while it's true that the Polish-language article is longer than this, what it isn't is better sourced than this: it just cites the exact same five sources, and doesn't add even one new source that isn't already here, let alone the substantial number of new sources it would take to actually make a difference here. So even if this article were expanded into a full word-for-word translation of the Polish one, she still would not clear the notability bar — because the inclusion bar for a city councillor hinges on the sourcing, not on the length of the article, and the sourcing here is not nearly good enough. Bearcat (talk) 15:14, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I Will Been recently adding her biography and an appropriate reference to her. Telex80 (talk) 04:05, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The new sources are not helping much - few mentions in passing in local media, a single interview with her but not about her but about some local politics. Nothing that suffices for passing WP:NBIO. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:57, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. Polish version of this article is also being considered for deletion (pl:Wikipedia:Poczekalnia/biografie/2019:05:05:Elżbieta Grabarek-Bartoszewicz). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:57, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - WP:POLITICIAN says, "Just being an elected local official...does not guarantee notability" - does not have any notable achievements - WP:GNG requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" - as nom states, "coverage is limited to local (regional) Polish newspapers and news portals" - does not meet notability guidelines, therefore delete - Epinoia (talk) 20:12, 10 May 2019 (UTC)


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