Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/El Camino Real (Reed)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep/redirect:‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ Any editors wishing to rename the redirect or merge any of its content from the page history are free to do so. (non-admin closure) asilvering (talk) 06:15, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect El Camino Real (Reed) to Alfred Reed
 * Keep Armenian Dances
 * Keep The Hounds of Spring

El Camino Real (Reed)

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No indication this satisfies WP:NMUSIC. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,Rosguill talk 16:56, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Armenian Dances: This is one of the most performed compositions in the literature and is considered part of the core repertoire. Would prefer keeping the other two as well, but there is limited information available online, it seems. Here are some sources:
 * Begian, Harry (October 1985). "Alfred Reed's "Armenian Dances" (Part I): A Rehearsal Analysis." The Instrumentalist
 * Salzman, Timothy, ed. (2003). "Alfred Reed." A Composer's Insight: Thoughts, Analysis, and Commentary on Contemporary Masterpieces for Wind Bands. Vol. 1. Meredith Music. pp. 119–130
 * Gaines, David Alan (Fall 1988). "A Core Repertoire Of Concert Music For High School Band." Journal of Band Research
 * Montellano, Raquel G. (2004). On a Hymnsong of Philip Bliss and Armenian Dances, Part I: A Conductor's Study Guide of Two Popular Works. (MM thesis). The University of Texas at El Paso
 * Thanks! Why? I Ask (talk) 03:50, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Armenian Dances per . Weak Keep The Hounds of Spring, which is the subject of a dissertation and like Armenian Dances, is used as pedagogical example . Merge and Redirect El Camino Real to Alfred Reed, and merge/redirect the other articles too if they end up not being kept. Jfire (talk) 05:29, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  05:33, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Strong keep for Armenian dances: I was extremely surprised to see Armenian Dances at AfD, seeing as it is one of the cornerstone works of concert band literature. I've found a couple extra sources in addition to those above
 * de Meij, J. (2022, 05). Trends and changes in today's wind orchestra scene. School Band & Orchestra, 25, 14-16. Retrieved from https://www.proquest.com/magazines/trends-changes-todays-wind-orchestra-scene/docview/2679859141/se-2.
 * This article lists Armenian Dances as one of the "major works that have become our standard "classical" repertoire for the wind orchestra"
 * Begian, H. (1988, 02). Alfred reed's armenian dances (part II)-A rehearsal analysis. The Instrumentalist, 42, 24. Retrieved from https://www.proquest.com/magazines/alfred-reeds-armenian-dances-part-ii-rehearsal/docview/740773627/se-2
 * A similar article to one listed above on part I
 * Together this should be a clear GNG pass. As for the others, I agree with a redirect to Alfred Reed for El Camino Real (sadly I cannot find anything either). I'm ambivalent on The Hounds of Spring: it's used quite widely in band teaching but I'm not sure the sources above are a clear GNG pass. Consider this a neutral as my gut feeling is a weak keep but I don't have a policy-based reasoning. All the best, Schminnte &#91;talk to me&#93; 12:05, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment - It looks like the "El Camino Real" article will be kept, but if so the title will have to be moved to correspond with disambig standards. It should be "El Camino Real (song)" or possibly "El Camino Real (Alfred Reed song)". See the other music-related items at the disambig page. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 14:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep all pages listed by nominator. Disambiguation for El Camino Real ought to be "El Camino Real (Reed composition)" or "El Camino Real (composition)". It is not a "song". —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.