Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/El Douaihy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete Adam Cuerden talk 19:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

El Douaihy

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This is an article about a Lebanese family. The article has a fairly long history of problems: it was deleted once as a copyright violation but recreated in good faith by the holder of the copyright. However, the tone of the article is clearly unencyclopedic and requests for sources have been systematically removed. The article is full of peacock terms and sentences (for example: "Throughout history, the El Douaihys endowed the community with a whole host of illustrious men of swords and cassock". I've tagged it a few times for NPOV (this version and the one previously deleted), tried removing the more ludicrously positive sentences, added requests for citations, engaged in dialog with the creator to explain my concerns. Once again, all tags have been removed by so I think it's time to just shut down the page. Pascal.Tesson 14:53, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. The article does need significant improvement and POV hunting, but I think information on Lebanese feudal families is good to have on Wikipedia. I don't think issues with the editor are sufficient justification to delete the article. If Douaihy continues his/her disruptive editing there are other venues to persue.&mdash;  Lestat deLioncour t  11:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I see what you mean but I'd like to clear something up: I'm not nominating the article for AfD solely on the basis of POV concerns although that's what tipped the scale for me. The article is unsourced and there's no indication that it can be properly sourced from reference material that would be independent of the El Douaihy family. Pascal.Tesson 12:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. The article is a collection of speculation and vanity. Nowhere does it make a claim to why the entire family is notable or provide any sources. If someone can create properly sourced articles for individuals fair enough. Nuttah68 11:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Articles about families tread very close to what Wikipedia is WP:NOT (i.e. webspace provider, directory).  That is not to say that we should never have articles about families or clans, but, like Nuttah, I think it's usually better to have individual articles about notable persons in the family.  An article about the family requires independant notability of the family, and there is none cited in the article.  This, combined with the above WP:COI and WP:NPOV concerns compel me to support deletion.-- Kubigula (talk) 23:36, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and protect to prevent re-creating the article per nom. --Parker007 18:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.