Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/El Meswy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:00, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

El Meswy

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Article has stood for ten years with effectively no references and a borderline promotional tone. Speedy deletion was previously declined, which is why I'm opening AfD rather than deleting it outright. —C.Fred (talk) 22:16, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Article as it stands is a complete mess with serious tone issues. I am not seeing third-party reliable source mentions of the subject to meet WP:NMUSICBIO, but there could be some non-English language sources I'm not seeing. If so, it seems like the current article needs to be blown up and started over; there's not much to salvage from the current article other than the list of albums. PohranicniStraze (talk) 04:17, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 05:51, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 05:51, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 05:51, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - Article is (was) an attempt at promotion by copying website text into WP. The rapper has achieved little coverage beyond routine song listings at MP3/streaming sites. He has been mentioned briefly in Spanish articles about other people or his larger scene (e.g., ) but notability is not inherited. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 14:25, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete unless someone finds some really good references in Spanish about him – I can't find any online. He seems to be a big fish in a small pond, i.e. a well known name within the Spanish hip hop scene, but it's doubtful whether that scene is very big or notable. As far as I can tell, all his records have been self-released on his own label (the last two were crowdfunded) so he doesn't appear to have caught the eye of anyone outside the local NYC or hip hop communities. Richard3120 (talk) 17:52, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete The fact that a horribly promotional article like this has survived for ten years is why we need to have more strongent rules on who can create articles on Wikipedia. It is also why inclusionists are just plain wrong. The more borderline articles we include, the bigger and harder to maintain the project becomes.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:25, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete If notability can be established, a good dose of WP:TNT is required here anyway. Basie (talk) 04:41, 4 June 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.