Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/El Presidente (cocktail) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 16:52, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

El Presidente (cocktail)
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Previous afd ended in deletion, then recreated. No evidence of notability; Wikipedia is not a recipe book. Reywas92Talk 19:14, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * To be clear, the previous AfD ended with author requested speedy deletion because they transwikied the article to Wikibooks. However, it was deleted there and the author of the original article then supported its recreation here.  The notability of the subject has never been tested at AfD. SpinningSpark 20:01, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - Notable drink. GigglesnortHotel (talk) 19:49, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and undelete the page history of the previously deleted article. It has a history going back to the early 20th century.  The book How's Your Drink?: Cocktails, Culture, and the Art of Drinking Well spends three pages on it before it gets around to a recipe.  This includes its origin stories and the identity of the notable person after whom it is named.  Many websites give more than passing mentions or recipes and include encyclopaedic information. SpinningSpark 20:25, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. North America1000 21:56, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - notable beverage.  FITINDIA   09:19, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. Yet again we have an AfD nomination of a food related article with the rationale "Wikipedia is not a recipe book" where the nominator seems to have completely failed to observe that there is actually no recipe in the article. That just translates to IDONTLIKEIT and should be ignored by the closer as an invalid argument. SpinningSpark 10:36, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. What we've got now is a disaster of an article (the one reference currently points to a GoDaddy domain parking page).  But, it didn't take long to find a number of good sources:, , ,  which discuss the drink and its history in some detail (as opposed to the slew of useless hits that were nothing more than recipes).  ¡Viva la Wikipedia!  ¡Más ron para todos los editores!  ¿Porque no hace WP:BEFORE?  AfD no es limpia. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:49, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


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