Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eldridge Hawkins, Jr.


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The result was keep. Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:59, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Eldridge Hawkins, Jr.

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Non-Notable Politician. Fails GNG and WP:Politician including coverage or notability outside of being Mayor of Orange, New Jersey. TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 08:19, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment COI is never a valid reason for deleting an article and has no bearing on the notability or otherwise of the subject. Voceditenore (talk) 09:31, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * To clarify, my comment above was in reference to the original version of the nomination rationale. Voceditenore (talk) 17:36, 17 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment Proof of the notability of the subject is contained within the article itself which contains several citations of the national US media attention generated by the subject's conflict with public employee unions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fbaraff (talk • contribs) 11:12, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment @User:Voceditenore ok I see your point but it still fails for notability under GNG and WP:Politician. TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 16:00, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep @User:TheGoofyGolfer The article clearly meets the standards for notability under GNG and WP:Politician. The GNG states: If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article or stand-alone list. The text of the article and its citations makes clear that the subject received significant coverage on reliable independent national and international sources including Fox Financial News, CNN and CNN International. As is documented in the article, the subject was interviewed multiple times on these television news channels regarding his experience and views on the role of public employee unions, a major issue in today's U.S. political dialogue. In addition, the text of the article and its citations makes clear that the subject received significant coverage on reliable independent major New York area daily newspaper sources including the Star-Ledger and the Courier-News. Further, an update to the article indicates that since leaving the office of Mayor, the subject has participated in widely broadcast panel discussions on reliable New York City television stations Fox5 and WWOR and radio station WGHT Hot 97.1 for his expertise and experience on the widely debated issue of school violence and gun control. The update documents that the subject received significant television and radio coverage for his controversial opinion that armed guards should be placed in schools and his advocacy of a moderate position on gun control. The article also meets the notability standard under WP:Politician. It clearly, as stated above meets two of the notability criteria, specifically: 2.Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage. and 3.Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article". Fbaraff (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:09, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Notability outside being Mayor? There is sufficient 3rd party coverage of subject to establish barely notable as mayor. Dloh  cierekim  18:11, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
 * comment I think the nominator might strengthen his position by striking the COI part. The issue at hand is notability or lack there of of the subject. Dloh  cierekim  18:14, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
 * request I would like to request that this AfD be extended beyond the 7 day period to get a better concensus because there really hasn't been any votes on this matter. Thank you in advance. TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 16:25, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes Criteria 2 of WP:POLITICIAN: "Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage" per this lengthy article in the New Jersey Star-Ledger (a statewide paper, not local to the town he was the mayor of); national coverage here, and here on CNN; and here on Fox News. There are also references to support the facts that he was the town's youngest ever mayor here and that he was selected by Ebony Magazine in 2009 as an “Outstanding Young American Leader here. Voceditenore (talk) 17:33, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:37, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:37, 19 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michaelzeng7 (talk) 20:50, 19 February 2013 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.