Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Electra and Elise Avellan


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The result was   no consensus.  Sandstein  11:38, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Electra and Elise Avellan

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Only three roles, and none of them have been big. JDDJS (talk) 15:10, 21 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep: I would argue that despite being small, two of the twins' roles are very memorable ones (Grindhouse and Machete); to the point that they have seem to have a reasonably large fan base and a significant "cult" following, as per WP:ENT - just look at the well-maintained tribute/fansites dedicated to the twins on the Net (and its not all about their acting ability). Also, there are many examples of "small" but cultish people being included on Wikipedia eg Bill Hinzman, as allowed for by the WP:ENT policy.-Kiwipat (talk) 17:28, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * How memorable is their part in Grindhouse, when they didn't even have a name? Furthermore, can you mention a case where an article has actually survived an AFD or became a Good Article just because the actor has a cult following? WP:OTHERSTUFF says not to just name other articles. JDDJS (talk) 19:23, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:51, 21 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete My advise would be to delete until they meet a considerable standard of notability. ENT states that meeting 1 criteria should not guarantee the keeping of an article, if you met two, I would reconsider. The article can always be remade when they have stared in several more films and win an award or two. Sephiroth storm (talk) 20:36, 21 March 2012 (UTC)




 * Keep and expand. Perhaps weak on ENT but okay per GNG. It would seem that Electra gets more work than her sister, Elise whose only few film credits are those times when she works with her sister. While Electra might push at WP:ENT, Elise does not. Sure, awards would be nice per WP:ANYBIO, and more and better roles would be nice per WP:ENT, but we can always look up the ladder to WP:GNG to determine if the two, as twins, receive coverage and mentions enough to tweak nicely at WP:GNG and/or offer verifibility. In a quick look, I found Taiwan News, Kansas City Star, Associated Press, MSNBC, Latino Review,  Il Cancello, Boston Globe, Monsters & Critics, Het Laatste Nieuws, MTV, Waterloo Region Record, et al. Sure, they're not The Olsen twins... but even if not the most notable twins ever, they have coverage and the article is thus improvable.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:08, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B  music  ian  03:43, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep per Schmidt. ~dee  ( talk? ) 16:28, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.