Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Electric City Shock SC (2nd nomination)


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The result was redirect to List of National Premier Soccer League teams. Missvain (talk) 00:38, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Electric City Shock SC
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What are we to do with these NPSL teams with all of these sports nobility tags? There's a very small amount coverage of this team, see this article when they were launched, and this five-sentence blurb about their first season, but the local newspaper doesn't even cover their home games, and the majority of the results which come up appear to be from a local softball team. I thought this would be a good source but it mentions their attendance of "about 100" in spite of "next to no advertising." Other web searches brought up no WP:GNG qualifying coverage, just non-independent web sites from the league or other teams in the league. Note: I did not see a previous AfD had been withdrawn, but that AfD did not discuss the near complete lack of available sources. SportingFlyer  T · C  00:55, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete Easily fails WP:GNG even if all we have is coverage for a local WP:AUDience, they're not notable. Note: They have never played for the national cup. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:49, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 09:52, 1 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of National Premier Soccer League teams (which can be expanded with additional information, and put in a proper table form) as possible search term, but due to ongoing lack of coverage does not appear independently notable. GiantSnowman 09:55, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * As someone who edited/tried to clean up this page (it used to be WAY worse), I lean Delete but only if this same standard is held with other teams. I'm not sure how teams like FC Málaga City New York, Cedar Stars Rush, or Ozark FC among others have pages if this one gets taken down. I think many editors believe once a team joins the NPSL or USL2 it automatically makes them notable, so I think there needs to be a clear correction on that like SportingFlyer alluded too. ColeTrain4EVER (talk) 01:55, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm currently working my way thru pages which have sports notability tags on them, but don't mind taking a look at those as well. I do find it odd that there's nothing really available in terms of reliable secondary media to improve these pages. SportingFlyer  T · C  15:19, 9 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of National Premier Soccer League teams - plausible search term and per WP:ATD Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:54, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't know why we are so quick to jump the gun and create these NPSL and USL2 sides; they rarely stand on their own in terms of notability, usually only garnering routine coverage from local sports media. Usually WP:FOOTYN suggests that only teams that have played in the U.S. Open Cup are presumed to have met notability criteria. As this team has not done that, I have no issue with its deletion. And given the lack of traffic to this page, I don't think a redirect is necessary. I'd say just move it to draft space if need be. Jay eyem (talk) 20:40, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect. A fourth tier team that's been around for only seven years and has never qualified for the playoffs in any of them? I'm sure that someday this will pass GNG, but I don't think it does now. jp×g 06:13, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep added some references. Article should be improved, not redirected. Nfitz (talk) 16:02, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * With the exception of the "Neighbor News", which is a hyper-local story about a local soccer player, I did see the two other sources from the same newspaper you added to the article, but didn't think they rose to the level of WP:GNG (especially since I couldn't find consistent, ongoing coverage of their matches.) SportingFlyer  T · C  21:24, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Current consensus would suggest redirect is the path that causes least harm, but Nfitz has added sources that could indicate GNG and this is worthy of further consideration.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 21:03, 11 May 2021 (UTC)


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