Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elements (restaurant)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:25, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Elements (restaurant)

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Not notable, per WP:AUD. Seems to be of only local interest: refs are specialist or local refs, from NJ publications or the NYT but in it's capacity as a local paper. The only exception is the chef being a semi-finalist in a regional chefs contest, but that hardly makes him or the restaurant notable. JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 13:25, 21 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep Per WP:AUD all sources are at least regional. In page citations show coverage from New York Times (covering the NY Region per title), The Star-Ledger (NJ regional newspaper), Wine Spectator both in 2009 and 2010 (national), New Jersey Monthly, and the chef is currently a semi finalist for the James Beard Foundation Award. Passes WP:GNG and WP:AUD.
 * Note This editor had previously prodded the article which I contested. Valoem   talk  15:06, 21 March 2014 (UTC)


 * New Jersey is not a region, nor is New York + New Jersey. I don't know which title you are referring to, the title of the NYT review is "Locally Rooted Flavors That Belie Their Setting", and it's covered as the NYT is a local paper as well as a national one. The award is regional, but being one of twenty Mid-Atlantic chefs up for a regional award does not make the restaurant notable.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 15:24, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Local coverage refers to local newspapers which cover only a town or county such as the New Brunswick Patch. I recommend reading Newspaper (local) which will clarify requirements for regional sources. New York + New Jersey is absolutely a region often referred to as the New York metropolitan area. If you disagree please provide a Wikipedia project page citation. Valoem   talk  15:56, 21 March 2014 (UTC)


 * WP:AUD does not define region, but I would say it's much larger than a state, while NJ + NYC is smaller than most states. They're part of the Northeastern United States region for example. I don't think we can agree on this though, I think we need some other opinions.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 16:34, 21 March 2014 (UTC)


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 * Keep - passes WP:GNG and also WP:AUD per coverage in the New York Times for this Princeton, New Jersey restaurant (NYT article). NorthAmerica1000 21:04, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per substantial coverage in reliable independent sources as well as recognitions. Candleabracadabra (talk) 01:07, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
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