Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elena Baramova


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was keep. - brenneman  {L} 04:21, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Elena Baramova
Contested PROD. Does not seem to meet the notability guidelines at WP:MUSIC and WP:BIO. No more notable than thousands of other opera singers around the world. Delete. User:Angr 21:24, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep; international tour meets WP:MUSIC. &mdash;  Ed Gl  21:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete an "international tour" doesn't make a musician notable. The article reads like a resume. She seems very promising and moderately successful but early in her career and unestablished. No amazon listing at all. 295 google hits most of which are wikipedia or mirrors. Zero eBay results (where you can sometimes find obscure artists.) Zero hits on Gracenote (a very complete database of nearly every CD in existence).--Nick Y. 22:53, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment This is probably because she is from Bulgaria, a non-English speaking country (the Internet is predominantly English). &mdash;  Ed Gl  23:07, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment most of the non-wikipedia related google hits are not in english. The official State Opera Web Site] only acknowledges her as a soloist among Stoyan Ivanov, Martin Iliev,Ivaylo Dzhurov, Alexander Krunev,Elena Baramova, Larisa Malici, Linka Stoyanova, Petya Dimitrova, Adreana Nikolova, Emilia Ivanova, Silvia Vasileva, Stoyan Daskalov, Sergey Gontovyy, Diman Panchev, Dobri Dobrev, Mila Koleva, Evgeni Dimitrov. She has yet to make List_of_Bulgarians, which may have dubious entries anyway. Orlin Goranov appears to stand out above the rest of the company but he does not have a wikipedia page. There are many opera singers in the world. I have nothing against Bulgarians but the opera which she is associated with is in a town of 164,000 people Stara Zagora. That is why they go on tour. I have non-notable friends that have sung parts in major metopolitan opera houses. --Nick Y. 00:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, so the group she's in is touring, and she's just one in the group. I'll change my vote then. Delete per Nick Y. &mdash;  Ed Gl  02:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep article needs clean-up but soprano soloists for state opera companies are more notable than plenty of bands that scrape through WP:MUSIC; she's toured, she's won awards, what's nn about that. Eluchil404 12:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment The company which she has been a member of for 1 year has toured, as they do every year. Nearly everyone in the company has the chance to solo. The awards she has won seem relatively non-notable. I think the opera company is notable even though it is small and from a small town, it has a long history, a dedicated building (sort of, it's actually multi-use)and the company tours neighboring countries.--Nick Y. 17:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)


 *  AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.  Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Mango juice talk 16:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Weak keep Googling for Елена Баръмова throws up a reasonable number of Bulgarian hits (given that there aren't all that many Bulgarian sites to start with). It's not as though we're overwhelmed by articles on Bulgarian singers.    Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk  18:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep has a fairly impressive resume if we compare her with the film and television actors we tend to keep. Would like to see some sources to the award claims, therefore only a weak keep. -- e ivindt@c 20:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.