Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elena Ochoa Foster


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The result was keep DavidLeighEllis (talk) 00:15, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Elena Ochoa Foster

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Unsourced BLP, advertising The Banner talk 02:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
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 * Weak keep I have added slightly more information about the subject's pre-1996 life and several references. Some of these references might be argued as relating more to her husband than the subject and hence fall under WP:NOTINHERITED; I think there is just about enough here to indicate individual notability though (in particular Deyan Sudjic's piece from The Observer). AllyD (talk) 16:35, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment And no sooner is information added and referenced than it is deleted by an IP. AllyD (talk) 17:12, 20 August 2013 (UTC) Since there are IPs and new users popping up to repeatedly delete referenced text from this article every time it is added, I'll note here the 3 main references that are being deleted: Daily Mail, 1996 (via Questia, subscription reqd), Deyan Sudjic in The Observer, 2006, Apollo, 2011 (via Highbeam, subscription reqd). AllyD (talk) 17:29, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

_____ I think that the references and the changes AllyD made to the site are related more to her husband and their relationship than to her professional career and Ivorypress. Therefore I think they should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IPSpain (talk • contribs) 17:27, 20 August 2013 (UTC) — IPSpain (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Welcome to Wikipedia, IPSpain. The page in question is a page on the subject, not on Ivorypress (though it does contain a lot of information on Ivorypress publications, which should probably be pruned through normal editing). This is a biographical article and as such requires referenced biographical information; one does not delete references from Wikipedia. AllyD (talk) 17:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Per WP:GNG multiple reliable sources discuss the topic in depth. Additional sources:
 * Richard Cork, "The Ivory Tower", The Times (United Kingdom), Feb 21, 2004. Biographical piece about Elena Ochoa Foster
 * Christine Murray, "Christine Murray interviews Elena Ochoa Foster at the opening of V&A's Blood on Paper", Architects' Journal. 227.17 (May 1, 2008): p52-53. Gale Document Number: GALE|A179953939
 * "Lady Foster follows her art", Daily Telegraph, Oct. 21, 2003. Gale Document Number: GALE|A109048067. Brief piece about Elena Ochoa Foster.
 * Tunku Varadarajan, "Norman conquest of Dr Sex; Opinion." The Times, 19 June 1996: 19. Gale Document Number: GALE|A115085544. Biographical piece about Elena Ochoa Foster.
 * These were found in commercial databases (mostly Gale Infotrac Newsstand). If you would like a copy to verify or to expand the article, please request at WP:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 19:15, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. Along with the sources listed above I'm finding a lot of Spanish-language press about her; e.g.   (all reporting on her winning the Montblanc Prize in 2010);   . And of course the language of the sources is not relevant for notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 04:31, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * True, by now the article is sourced. Remains the problem of advertising for "Ivory Press". How to deal with that? Axe it or split it off to another article? The Banner talk 11:31, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing advertising for Ivory Press. As an artist she lists her exhibitions, which is normal, for artists its like a list of books published. They happen to all be at Ivory Press, like some books are published by the same publisher. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 15:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I think the proper term for that is self-published books. The Banner talk 21:54, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * We list works, self published or otherwise, if the article topic is considered notable. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 23:48, 25 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - Passes GNG, per sources presented by Green Cardamom. Carrite (talk) 17:45, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
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