Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elena Petrovna Ostrovskaya


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The result was Draftify‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Ordinarily, I would relist this discussion to get a more firm consensus. But except for hot button topics, we have fewer and fewer editors participating in AFDs, thoughtfully, and many relisted discussions so I'll just close this with what seems to be a solution. Liz Read! Talk! 04:04, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Elena Petrovna Ostrovskaya

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Questionable notoriety. Article reads a bit like a resume and is orphaned anyway, which leads back to the questionable notoriety point. Lindsey40186 (talk) 03:55, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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 * Comment: sadly, this seems to be a machine translation from Russian wikipedia (correctly acknowledged in the first edit summary as a translation) which has not been carefully checked by its creating editor ( see WP:MACHINE) - she is referred to as "he" a couple of times in the Biography section, and I don't know how much else is inaccurate. It would be helpful if the article titles of the references were translated and included in the refs in the "trans-title" field, so that non-Russian readers can get a better idea of them. Perhaps the article should be Draftified pending improvements? Pam  D  09:54, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * All good points. I would support sending it back to drafts at this time as well. Lindsey40186 (talk) 14:09, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Lindsey40186 I think you mean Notability, when you say "notoriety" above, twice: not the same thing. Pam  D  14:24, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I do. Sorry about this. It was well past my bedtime when I wrote that :) Lindsey40186 (talk) 14:42, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Draftify, and do not reinstate until everything has been checked. I now notice that a UNESCO chair is mentioned in lead, but nowhere else, so is unsourced: the same is true in the Russian article, and there seems nothing likely (no mention of "oriental", as in the name of her institution, in this list referenced in UNESCO Chairs. Altogether too unreliable-looking to be in mainspace. Pam  D  14:55, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * And while I asked above for the titles of the references to be translated (in addition to the original titles), the titles of her publications ought at least to indicate that they were in Russian, and I would think they should give the original title as well as the translated title. Pam  D  15:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC)


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