Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elf Only Inn (2nd nomination)

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was undecided, kept.mikka (t) 02:06, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Elf Only Inn
Previous vote: Votes for deletion/Elf Only Inn.
 *  del . Rewritten into a huge page, but no notability presented. mikka (t) 20:52, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
 * keep. Chgd my vote. mikka (t) 02:09, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Seems nn. Delete. Agentsoo 21:25, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Webcomic. Alexa rank quite low.  Apparently not even in operation anymore, according to article. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd  21:46, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * What, this again? Delete. android  79  01:59, July 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete.  Grue   14:03, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
 * keep So just because something is taking a break we should forget it ever existed? What's the big deal with letting a decent article stay? GTJoe
 * Wikipedia is not a memorial. The issue is notability. If it is doomed to be forgotten without wikipedia article, farewell. mikka (t) 18:44, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
 * So lets go and delete entries for extinct animals, old TV shows, and the deceased, because who cares, right? You say it's doomed to be forgotten, yet it keeps being brought up. It's only doomed because you guys keep deleting the articles we write over and over again. As for notability, enterthedream.net hosts reviews for EOI and Penny Arcade did a legitimate crossover  with them. Anyway, I'm not sure where you get off deleting things for their lack of popularity- look at half the stuff you wiki. GTJoe
 * Extinct animals are not forgotten. Being deceased or killed is not the reason for encyclopedia, neither for exclusion. Please stop playing word games. "We guys" request proofs of notability (i.e., reason why other people would want to read the article); e.g., a review somewhere. Please see Talk:Elf Only Inn for more discussion. mikka (t) 20:02, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

In this article's defense, I like to note that according to The Notability and Inclusion Guidelines, a webcomic need only comply with the Alternate Proposal to be considered acceptable. I counted weeks of comic strips, and came up with roughly 80 weeks, doing random sampling per month to ensure there weren't bouts of guest strips. That more than surpasses the 33-week requirement. I have not yet counted the number of strips in the EOF archive, but the first few months were every other day upates, the remaining months were sporatic updates; usually 3 a week. I could count 100 strips without breaking a sweat. As to the author of this article, I honestly don't know if it is Josh Sortelli or not, but I doubt he would return from hiatus to write a wiki article and not update his comic. Regardless, if there are suspicions I'll be happy to re-write it myself. Saxon 05:55, 3 August 2005 (UTC) (GTJoe, just figured out how to sign things)


 * Delete. Still not a webcomic of any import. Remember, the WP:COMIC conditions are a minimum to qualify as encyclopedic. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 06:17, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Fine! I give up. I've proven this comic meets the notability requirement. The author and I have both mentioned this comic won an annual webcomic category award and was nominated for another. I've provided a list of links with reviews. Since I know I've done more research than any of you and still no one's mind can be changed, I change my vote to delete. Now we just have to go through every single other webcomic on the list and delete the ones that don't fall into these lofty, unwritten standards you all have. I simply find it ridiculous this particular comic is being singled out while hordes of lesser comics and their stubs abound, so lets make sure we don't leave the purging unfinished. Saxon 07:46, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The Web Cartoonist Choice awards are a joke even in the webcomic community. And, incidentally, I did put a couple of webcomics that fell below the bar on VFD just today, so, at least in my case, your veiled accusations of hypocricy ring false. If there are webcomic articles that legitimately need to be put on VFD, by all means do so. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 08:44, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. The comic is best known for having stopped updating almost as soon as it was invited to Keenspot. --Carnildo 09:00, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. While I'm not a fan of this particular comic, the article seems sound to me, and I have added some minor improvements. ~ Dread Lord C y b e r S k u l l ✎☠ 03:06, 2005 August 4 (UTC)
 * Keep. No matter how much the WCCA's are ridiculed, it's the only real mark of notability less-popular comics have. Nifboy 00:11, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.