Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elif Ulaş


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:24, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Elif Ulaş

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Continued disruption (removal of PRODS) by User:‎Hmlarson. A clear violation of WP:NHOCKEY. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:37, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions.  M assiveYR   ♠  07:00, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions.  M assiveYR   ♠  07:00, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete: Given Hmlarson's curious argument that NHOCKEY isn't valid as a deletion ground because NHOCKEY doesn't accord presumptive notability to female players, my retort continues to be that as long as being a hockey player is the sole stated premise of a subject's notability, failure to meet NHOCKEY's a valid reason to delete. It's also true that the GNG supersedes NHOCKEY, but since neither Hmlarson nor anyone else has presented evidence that the subject can meet it, no article on her can be sustained. Likewise, the subject fails NSKATE, which does not provide presumptive notability to juniors-level skaters.   Ravenswing   11:50, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:NHOCKEY No indication of wide GNG. Article is well referenced, however all sources are essentially databases, stat sites, brief routine mentions or Primary sources. Would challenge other editors to provide a single instance of a significant, dedicated article on the player that might be used to support GNG. Fenix down (talk) 09:00, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Summed up pretty well already. I can find nothing anywhere that indicates they meet the WP:GNG. -DJSasso (talk) 12:48, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete if editos want to create articles on female hockey players who fail guidelines, they need to change the guidelines. However since the guidelines at present reflect general notability in reliable publications which in turn reflects actual interest in the sport involved, what really needs to change is interest and sourcing, both of which need to be changed by actions off Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a forum for social change or to right perceived wrongs, it is meant to reflect the actual reliable sources on topcis.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:05, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: Yeah. It sucks, for instance, that the likes of Khloe Kardashian gets about twenty times the press attention of every single Nobel Prize winner last year combined, but society didn't ask my permission or advice concerning about what they're allowed to care.   Ravenswing   09:05, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


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