Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elise Jordan (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 16:40, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Elise Jordan
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Second time around. Not notable: political operative who has made a tv appearance or two, and probably gets a few mentions in the papers--but there is no significant in-depth discussion that I saw to prove she's notable. Note that one of the KEEP voters from last time is a blocked sock. Drmies (talk) 02:28, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
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 * Merge to article on Michael Hastings (journalist) where her very minor roles can be covered and where her one notable set of actions, being a figure in undermining claims of foul play in her husband's death, can be better covered there. She is not notable on her own.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:45, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Not very bothered either way, but... It's pretty rare that I'm watching a news video on YouTube and look up one of the people mentioned in it and find that their Wikipedia article is currently at AFD. Republican who is highly critical of Trump is a fairly interesting factoid, and she came down pretty hard for an "MSNBC political analyst" who apparently usually skews right-of-center. If she still works for them then I imagine if she doesn't already meet GNG or NJOURNALIST she will pretty soon. Whether the article remains or not, I wonder if there is a better option than a redirect to her husband. Cenk described her as "She's a Republican woman, supported Rand Paul earlier" not "She's a Republican woman, was married to Michael Hastings earlier"; they were married for two years, and he died three years ago. If I searched her name after seeing the video I linked and was redirected to an article on someone who died three years earlier I would be a bit confused -- her name only appears four times in the article on her husband. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 13:07, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Agree with Hijiri88 above. Was watching a news video featuring her too, Ben Carson to Reporter, "Turn off her Microphone", "She's Thick Headed" and came here to look her up. I feel certain others will follow. Airwave~enwiki (talk) 10:53, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The above is super-suspicious. My happening to search the name of someone who was at AFD is a coincidence, but it's possible, and I've been making edits to Wikipedia virtually every day for the last two years, where Airwave~enwiki essentially hasn't edited in four years. I also don't know why a "Keep" !vote would be agreeing with my "I don't mind, but a simple redirect wouldn't make sense". (Note that I know technically Johnpacklambert said "Merge", but more often than not it seems successful "Merge" results lead to the page being redirected with no material actually being merged and the redirect ultimately being forgotten. Redirecting to the page on her husband, as that article is currently written, makes no sense, so no redirect should be done unless a simultaneous merging of the Elise Jordan content is performed.) Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 01:04, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Although there was a flurry of coverage in the wake of her husband's tragic death in a car crash, the articles I found in a search and clicked on were brief and not enough to justify a stand-alone article. She is a youngish journalist; it may simply be WP:TOOSOON.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:40, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   13:38, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 22:20, 2 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - Non-notable outside of a specific event. Redirect unnecessary. / /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 21:58, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Notability cannot be inherited. The subject is not independently notable. It seems there is a small mention in the news which is ultimately connected to her husband. But nothing substantial about the subject herself. There is no need to merge any content here and a redirect is frankly unnecessary. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 02:15, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - run of the minor functionary. I note this discussion has been going on for over five weeks. Time to move on. Bearian (talk) 18:24, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


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