Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eliyahu Baal Shem of Worms


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The result was delete. Not convinced this subject meets English Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Missvain (talk) 23:25, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Eliyahu Baal Shem of Worms

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The sole source does not provide support for the content. eg. no birth date is given and it states he arrived in Worms in 1590, although the article states he died in 1583? The only source also seems to be a fictional work. I removed the second source as it related to Elijah Loans. There is no other RS for this person. Chesdovi (talk) 12:38, 28 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. Chesdovi (talk) 12:47, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Contest. I removed the dates of birth and death since they are not sourced. The source cited, The Lubavitcher Rabbi's Memoirs, although written hagiographically, is by no means a work of fiction. -- -- -- 03:44, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The author provides no source to corroborate the existence of this rabbi, also unsure whether he is considered notable enough for an article that will never be more than a one line stub (now also without birth & death dates...). But I need to check R' Aryeh Kaplan's Mediation and Kabbalah as he seems to make mention of a couple of personalities known by this name. Chesdovi (talk) 12:59, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Please also see Hebrew Wikipedia article he:ה'ש"ן which cites the Lubavitcher Rabbi's לקוטי דבורים which states the information written in the article matter-of-factly. -- -- -- 01:50, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * But does that book constitute WP:RS? I doubt it. Chesdovi (talk) 13:23, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 18:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

User:Chesdovi, on what basis would you claim that the book isn't reliable? -- -- -- 13:42, 12 May 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 23:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete for lack of demonstrated notability. KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 23:21, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 15:27, 20 May 2021 (UTC)


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