Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elizabeth A. Okoreeh-Baah


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The result was   keep. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  06:24, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Elizabeth A. Okoreeh-Baah

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Notable only for one event Pascal666 (talk) 10:18, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Holding a record is not the sort of thing ONEEVENT was created for. It was meant for people involved in events covered by the news for which no real biographical information was available. Clearly this article can be expanded with information on her service besides the record in question. - Mgm|(talk) 10:30, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Well referenced with notability established well beyond the scope of WP:BLP1E. Mister Senseless&trade; (Speak - Contributions) 15:31, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Are we reading the same article? I see no mention of any records held, there are over 250 people in VMM-263, several times that in the United States Naval Academy class of 2000, and god only knows how many people have a Master of Science degree from Boston University.  The only thing in that article that makes her notable is being the first female to pilot the V-22.  This is exactly the kind of thing BLP1E was intended for.  The XV-3 article (a predecessor to the V-22) for example includes the text "On 18 December 1958, Bell test pilot Bill Quinlan accomplished the first, dynamically stable, full conversion to airplane mode, and on 6 January 1959, Air Force Captain Robert Ferry became the first military pilot to complete a tiltrotor conversion to airplane mode."  Neither of these individuals have their own articles, nor should they.  Okoreeh-Baah should certainly have a footnote on V-22, but a separate article is unwarranted.  --Pascal666 (talk) 17:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge (and reduce) - Footnote, as per Pascal666. How is her notability established beyond the scope of one event? Ddawkins73 (talk) 17:16, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.   —&mdash; ERcheck (talk) 05:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep &mdash; significant with respect to the enduring history of women in military aviation. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 05:37, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps there should be a "2.4 Women in aviation" on History of women in the military --Pascal666 (talk) 06:24, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't meet WP:BIO, especially as most of the references are from military publications which obviously aren't independent sources given that Captain Okoreeh-Baah is a serving military officer. I have serious BLP concerns over this (especially per WP:ONEEVENT and WP:NPF) - she's a fairly low ranking officer, it's not remarkable for US military personnel to come from third-world countries and becoming the first woman to pilot a V-22 is admirable but not particularly notable - it would probably be removed as trivia if it was added to the V-22 article. The fact that one of the article's sources is a notices page on a local news website is, to be frank, a bit creepy and suggests that Captain Okoreeh-Baah's privacy is being intruded upon. Nick-D (talk) 07:28, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Historical interest, ref'd by newspapers and a university too.  — Rlevse • Talk  • 10:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per all the other "keeps" above. Notable. In my humble opinion I believe that the deletionists should dedicate themselves to targeting the articles of real un-notables, such as those reality show contestants who all seem to have articles in Wikipedia. Tony the Marine (talk) 18:16, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Not entirely familiar with the whole history of Wikipedia, but I do know that one-dimensional labelling is just divisive and unhelpful. If millions are using it, don't care - they should stop too. Here, the comment prejudices proper assessment. Ddawkins73 (talk) 10:24, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep- This is more than routine news coverage. She has become part of the history of women in military aviation.--J.Mundo (talk) 05:56, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Strong news coverage. Significant pioneer. This is exactly the kind of subject an encyclopedia is for. Tractops (talk) 06:21, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - WP:ONEEVENT was created to weed out pointless articles about people who were briefly known for a nonnotable event. I disagree that its intent is to get rid of articles about people significant for an important event. You could argue Timothy McVeigh is only notable for one event, but I think we all agree an article for him is in order. The first female pilot to fly a V-22 is a significant event; at the very least, if the consensus is delete, the information needs to be merged into History of women in the military. --Alinnisawest,Dalek Empress ( extermination requests here ) 03:43, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The Oklahoma City bombing would not have occurred were it not for Timothy McVeigh (and no, some people do not agree that we should immortalize our criminals, see Herostratus and WP:DENY). Captain Okoreeh-Baah did not contribute in any way to the V-22 project.  She is notable only as the first female to fly it.  Had she not been around, it would have been someone else.  --Pascal666 (talk) 04:08, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


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