Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elizabeth Fetzer Bates


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The result was keep. No support for deletion. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 14:50, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Elizabeth Fetzer Bates

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Source searches are providing no evidence that this subject meets WP:BASIC or WP:MUSICBIO. Searches are providing name checks and passing mentions, the latter of which are in primary sources. None of this establishes notability. North America1000 06:09, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep I believe that she can be considered to meet WP:COMPOSER #1 "Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition." She has written two LDS children's hymns (though maybe they're not called that) which are, it seems, both well known and well loved within the church. We have many articles about hymnwriters, some of whom have written many hymns, some only one or two well-known ones - but "well-known" meaning within the church or denomination they were created for; only a very few are widely known. I have added references from independent secondary sources - the only one that is not independent, I believe, is the obituary in the Deseret News. So the issue of primary sources is addressed. I have also added some information from the sources I found. There is one long profile, some shorter articles and some sources that verify information. (I am not at all sure why this has been included in the list of "Fictional elements-related" deletion discussions.) RebeccaGreen (talk) 16:51, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I removed this AfD from the Fictional elements deletion sorting page (diff) and struck its entry above. North America1000 21:21, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep sources added during AfD carry her past WP:BASIC, WP:SIGCOV.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:42, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep concur with above keep !votes. Sources added during the AfD carry this article past WP:BASIC. Rollidan (talk) 05:03, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep The impact of her songs is hard to gage, but Book of Mormon Stories is a truly widely sung song. I may be a little biased here because my grandmother lives with Bates for several years in Salt Lake City, and I am good friends with Bates daughter, and was at her son-in-laws funeral. However the sourcing shows her being covered in multiple sources over a broad time.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:37, 2 August 2019 (UTC)


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