Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elizabeth Fiennes


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:48, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Elizabeth Fiennes

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I couldn't find sources or information to show she meets WP:BIOor WP:GNG. Information came up for Elizabeth Clinton, Countess of Lincoln (sometimes called Elizabeth Fiennes de Clinton) and for Elizabeth Fiennes nee Blount, mistress of Henry VIII usually referred to as Elizabeth Blount, but not this woman. I think it should be deleted, then made a dab to the two women mentioned above, and a link to *Elizabeth Fiennes, wife of John Clinton, 6th Baron Clinton. Boleyn (talk) 09:05, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 09:24, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 09:24, 10 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Agree with nom's analysis. In my BEFORE I came up with court ladies Elizabeth Clinton, Countess of Lincoln and Elizabeth Blount (both also known by this name) - but very little on this Fiennes - whom I don't see passing WP:GNG. The present entry is a WP:NOTGENEALOGY fail - it consists of nothing much at all - year of birth, father, marriage, and possible child - on the subject itself. The rest of the entry discusses her ancestors and speculative (as it is uncertain she is the mother) analysis of her progeny (concluding she may have been the great-grandmother of Edward Clinton, 1st Earl of Lincoln). Sourcing to Burke's Peerage and tudorplace.com.ar is a tad dodgy. Icewhiz (talk) 09:37, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I find no sources at all about her except genealogical publications (in which I include the Baronetages and Peerages of England). All that is certain is the date of her marriage and her father's and husband's names - even her date of birth seems uncertain. Even adding a link to her husband's WP article on a dab page seems unnecessary to me. RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:51, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete There is nothing in the article to suggest that she was independently notable. Dunarc (talk) 19:24, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 00:17, 11 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete -- I see nothing notable in the article. Possibly merge to her husband.  I noted two misspellings: Maxstoke (Castle) and Tredegar (house near Newport), the latter perhaps reproducing an archaic spelling.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:15, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * If something is merged to the husband (which already mentions her and most of what isn't genealogical speculation - so I don't see much to merge here) - this page should still be a DAB for Elizabeth Clinton, Countess of Lincoln and Elizabeth Blount who are both known under this name (more than this individual, who possibly could also be in the DAB (to the husband).Icewhiz (talk) 17:43, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete There’s no evidence that the subject of this article is covered in enough detail in reliable sources to warrant a stand-alone article. It may be that it is appropriate to merge/redirect/dab this page rather than straight delete but I’m not aware enough of all the details to know whether that is appropriate. Eldumpo (talk) 23:16, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - I'm skeptical Fiennes is encyclopedic, given a lack of biographical detail known about her life. Also, there seems to be enough uncertainty and inconsistency in what is known of her story that OR may be required to improve the article to encyclopedic status. Smmurphy(Talk) 20:10, 14 March 2019 (UTC)


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