Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elizabeth Shaughnessy


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The result was keep. Davewild (talk) 07:11, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Elizabeth Shaughnessy

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I'm not entirely sure if this chess player is notable as my searches haven't found anything significant here, here, here and here. This article has basically existed since August 2005 and I'm not seeing signs of improvement. SwisterTwister  talk  05:11, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * FIDE profile here – rated 1488, in other words a weak club player. Irish women's team record here – played in seven Olympiads plus one European Women's Team Championship from 1969 to 2010. According to her corporate bio she won the Irish women's championship in 1970 – the official list gives the winner's name that year as "B. O'Shaughnessy". Cobblet (talk) 06:36, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * She may have at times went by Betsy, Betty, Beth or another variant that began with B. The presence of absence of an O' at the start of a name can at times be hit and miss with Irish names. My guess is that she is the one referenced in the official list. It would help if the official list gave more than a first initial.John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:04, 7 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. For older players, I will not put much weight on the current FIDE rating since ratings often decline very significantly with senior players. What matters more is the presence of independent coverage. There is an extensive article about her in the May 2011 Chess Life edition. The Berkeley Chess Club that she founded has also received a fair amount of coverage, and Shaughnessy has been interviewed in that respect . The Irish Women's championship title is also in the mix. Sjakkalle (Check!)  16:42, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. I agree. National champion and Olympiad player are both major achievements, regardless of rating, which declines with age and depreciates with inflation. The linked Chess Life article explains the confusion over her name. Brittle heaven (talk) 01:35, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
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