Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elsie Thompson (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:11, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Elsie Thompson
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This woman's entire notability is that she was mistaken for being the oldest living American but in fact was the oldest living Floridian at her death. Regardless of the sourcing (mostly related to who was or wasn't the oldest person), any information about separate living is summarized in the biography section at the page for Ronald L. Thompson, her husband. Delete but at best, redirect to her husband's page. Ricky81682 (talk) 05:59, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment The prior discussion went for a weak keep (or more likely a delete or redirect) until the claim was made that she was the world's oldest American, a claim which as discussed is now considered false (showing the precise "scientific" nature of this longevity "studying"). -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:03, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:GNG, no significant coverage in reliable sources. None of the sources used demonstrate significant coverage or notability. Source 1 is a mention in a GRG list. Sources 2, 5 and 6 are from the Tampa Bay Times which suggests no major coverage outside her local area. Sources 3 (requires a subscription to read) and 4 (the 1900 census) are unreliable and shouldn't be used. Sources 7 and 8 shouldn't be on this article because they are about her husband and Jeralean Talley respectively, and don't mention Thompson at all. Would also support a redirect to either List of supercentenarians from the United States or her husband's page. CommanderLinx (talk) 13:02, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete or Redirect to Ronald L. Thompson. There aren't enough independent sources to establish notability and she's already listed in her husband's article. Ca2james (talk) 18:22, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 04:32, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 04:32, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 04:32, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.<li></li><li></li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Elsie Thompson to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 06:04, 8 September 2015 (UTC)</li></ul>
 * Merge / Redirect over to Ronald L. Thompson as per the above comments CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 02:25, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * At her death, Elsie Thompson was the oldest verified person in the United States. That after her death another person was verified as being older does not diminish from Elsie Thompson's notability. The contemporary sources wrote about her in detail. Prior to her death, Elsie Thompson received significant coverage in the Tampa Bay Times. At her death, she received very detailed obituaries in Tampa Bay Times and Today, as well as less substantial but still multiple paragraphs of coverage in Reuters and the Associated Press. She easily passes Notability. Cunard (talk) 06:04, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Merge or Redirect as per above editors, particularly Ricky81682.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 16:21, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge. I usually respect Cunard, but this time he's mistaken about the notabilty of the topic. The only sources shown is the Tampa Bay Times, which is local and routine coverage, considering Thompson retired to the area, while the rest of the coverage is about her age and its general interest news stories. This is wp:blp1e material, as her only claim to notabilty was her age. Pokerkiller (talk) 19:35, 10 September 2015 (UTC)


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