Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elsmere, Colorado


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The result was delete. Seems like we have a consensus here that there are no sources with which to establish notability. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:50, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Elsmere, Colorado

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Actually the former junction between the UP and the Rock Island outside Colorado Springs; the tracks were taken up in stages and now the spot is unrecognizable, having been overrun by the expanding city. There was never anything here but a few railroad buildings. Mangoe (talk) 02:28, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:07, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Colorado-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:07, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. How does the deletion nominator determine "There was never anything here but a few railroad buildings".  This seems to be another speculative Colorado populated places AFD.  See also:
 * Articles for deletion/Auburn, Colorado
 * Articles for deletion/Puritan, Colorado
 * Articles for deletion/Monument Park, Colorado
 * I happen to think it is far more plausible that off-line sources exist, or maybe online ones like those found with some digging on similar AFDs. wp:AFDISNOTFORCLEANUP. --Doncram (talk) 20:38, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I see that I am not the first editor to suggest creation of WP:OTHERSOURCESEXIST, but in any case the assumption that there are sources nobody has seen justifies keeping nearly everything. In fact, we as a rule know what the sources of GNIS entries are, because they cite them. The problem is that they misinterpret those sources often enough to where I and plenty of other people think that GNOIS is not good enough as the sole source for an article. And really, there's no problem with someone coming along and using some other source and writing a new article, referring to GNIS only for the location (which they are as rule solid on). But between the mistakes and the misleading "populated place" terminology (it doesn't mean "a place where there is or was population") and the indiscriminate creation of articles, we have too many articles that appear to be about towns and villages which are about things we (at least in the USA) have considered non-notable unless someone can actually produce a source which demonstrates that notability. GNIS is not such a source. Mangoe (talk) 22:31, 1 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete I'm unable to find any coverage of a community here, only a few railroad-related mentions on newspaper.com. This appears to be a railroad landmark mislabeled as a populated place by GNIS; if someone thinks that it was a "populated place", the onus is on them to provide sources supporting that claim. –dlthewave ☎ 04:42, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not seeing sufficient coverage to establish notability or to build even a tenuous stub. A train wreck happened here in 1903, but if the wreck isn't notable, then it doesn't confer notability to the place, either. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 03:42, 5 April 2020 (UTC)


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