Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elysium (band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:04, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Elysium (band)

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Apparently a non-notable band of Poland; they have in their official website a series of interviews, but most are in Polish language. I think they are notable only in their home-country. :)  C  anniba loki  15:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Why is being notable only in sources in Polish language a cause for deletion? Drawn Some (talk) 16:58, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * They apparently fails WP:BAND. Their interviews in Polish language is not a cause for deletion, but prevent me from trying to expand the page -- even in good faith.--  C  anniba loki  17:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Here are two links in Englsh if you are still willing to expand this article (thank you!): http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/groupe-groupe-Elysium_(PL)-l-en.html and http://www.metal-coven.dk/htm/Interviews/Elysium%20interview.htm BTW, the former being a French site and the latter being an interview on a Danish site, both are evidences that this band is notable in countries other than Poland. — Xavier, 21:36, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment The first is an online database that contributes nothing to the discussion of WP:N (you may as well mention Metal Archives). The second I have already linked to, but may be considered weak. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 00:03, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong keep We can't delete articles because of linguistic bias. They meet the notability guidelines of WP:BIO. just a little   insignificant  17:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * How they meet the notability guidelines of WP:BIO?--  C  anniba loki  17:42, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I meant WP:BAND. just a little   insignificant  21:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong keep. Huh? This band has released 6 albums (including 3 on "one of the lead independent labels in Poland") in a 13 year lifetime and it "apparently" fails to meet WP:BAND criteria? I wonder whether the submitter did really read them. — Xavier, 20:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I would like to see your ability to expand this article to us and show the "notability" of this band.--  C  anniba loki  20:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, if you carefully read this article, you'll certainly notice that those 6 albums, and their labels, are already mentioned. — Xavier, 21:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep The band appears to pass WP:MUSIC with three albums on an "important indie", in this case Metal Mind Productions. Actually, they have four including one on Black Mark Productions (home of Bathory et al.) as well, according to Metal Archives. Regarding other coverage, the name is obviously something of a problem, but there is a MusicMight biography here. Their wesbite provides a certain amount of press coverage, most of which may not reliable (I'm not really familiar with Eastern European magazines, and the fact that it's all linked from their site is somewhat dubious), but at least one claims to be from the Polish Metal Hammer, which would certainly be a big reliable source (I don't however speak Polish). English webzine interview here (not hosted by an Elysium site). It is a little sparse, I confess, but this was the result of a fairly brief search. Metal Mind is certainly huge (even by metal standards), so makes me lean towards keep. Note: I have personally never heard of this band. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 21:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep - If the band is notable in Poland, it is notable. Even if all the available sources were in Polish, that is not a remotely valid reason for deletion.  While the nominator may not be able to expand the article from Polish sources, an editor who speaks Polish would be able to. Rlendog (talk) 18:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 22:05, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.