Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Embassy of Bulgaria in Washington, D.C.


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Bulgaria–United States relations. No evidence of meeting WP:GNG has been provided in this discussion. If the article is substantially improved, you can appeal for it to be retained on the talk page. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:18, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Embassy of Bulgaria in Washington, D.C.

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Was the subject of a previous AfD in 2019 (Articles for deletion/Embassy of Afghanistan, Cairo) the result was procedural keep as participants clearly think the mass nomination was inappropriate and wanted the different embassies to be considered individually. The article is solely reliant on primary sources and it should be noted that embassies are not inherently notable. Fails WP:NBUILDING / WP:NORG / WP:GEOFEAT. Dan arndt (talk) 01:53, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Dan arndt (talk) 01:53, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bilateral relations-related deletion discussions. Dan arndt (talk) 01:53, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bulgaria-related deletion discussions. Dan arndt (talk) 01:53, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Dan arndt (talk) 01:53, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Washington, D.C.-related deletion discussions. Dan arndt (talk) 01:53, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep this and all embassy noms below this on 3/24 AfD log I see no issues with these articles at all outside that they're stubs and unlikely to be candidates for further expansion; please stop trying to remove embassy articles with WP-spamming and mass-noms like this (I'm treating it as one because it's basically the same as bunching them all together in one title). As noted in the 2019 nom, If the nom doesn't like embassies, they should start an ANI. Haven't seen one there since the failed mass-nom.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 02:23, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - based on the initial AfD in 2019 it appeared the approach put forward by the closer was that each embassy should be considered individually (i.e. on its own merits) - which is the approach that I have taken. Noting that I haven't listed all 45 previously nominated embassies and have been selective as to which clearly do not meet Wikipedia's standards for notability.  As I have stated in my nomination this embassy clearly fails Fails WP:NBUILDING / WP:NORG / WP:GEOFEAT. Dan arndt (talk) 04:16, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment to closer - based on similar AfDs this should be redirect/merge to Bulgaria–United States relations. Dan arndt (talk) 03:11, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stifle (talk) 13:50, 31 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I would be happy to see nearly all of these embassy pages deleted unless there is a special reason for considering them notable -- for example, the Ecuadorian Embassy in London is notable for the fact that Julian Lassange was holed up there; the US Embassy in Nairobi is notable for the bombing, etc. Moreover, is there any special reason why embassies in Washington DC are more notable than ones in other places. For example, do we need an article about the Bulgarian Embassy in Asunción? Athel cb (talk) 19:02, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep it for now - In the next few weeks I will work to improve the page content.--Isip2 westboro (talk) 12:42, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep My search for references suggests this embassy does meet WP:GNG Jeepday (talk) 18:20, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. This building has been open for, and has hosted important meetings for, over 100 years. In cases where there's not enough notability, information, or citations for a full article, we have selectively merged into the bilateral relations article, which is my second choice in this particular case. Bearian (talk) 19:34, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge any non-duplicative content to Bulgaria–United States relations. Much of the article seems to concern the relationship between the two countries anyway so it seems like the relations article is the better place for this content. DocFreeman24 (talk) 23:47, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:51, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to Bulgaria–United States relations. There is just nothing here on the building, and other than a list of ambassadors everything else seems to be about relations in general. Mangoe (talk) 16:37, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep for now Just because there is nothing on the building, does not mean the article should be deleted. Rather, it should be improved and sources found. If really nothing at all is found about the 100-year old history of the building, or of the embassy and ambassadors itself as an institution (which is somewhat distinct from that of the USA-Bulgaria relations as a whole), then it can be deleted. Embassies and ambassadors usually have a long history and plenty of source material can be found (if that is not the case, then we can delete), in particular considering these two countries have quite an amount of history between them. Rather, I think it makes more sense to merge List of ambassadors of Bulgaria to the United States into this page. Eccekevin (talk) 22:12, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It's no good to say "it should be improved" when there's no improving happening. People aren't producing sources that show how historic the building is, as an embassy or whatever it was before, so it's reasonable to assume that no improvement is forthcoming and that it's just another embassy building in DC, of which there are multitudes. Mangoe (talk) 02:37, 28 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep   scope_creep Talk  18:33, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , Friendly reminder: WP:NOTAVOTE. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:01, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Draftify. The history is substantial, but closer reading reveals that it is not about the embassy, but a fork of Bulgarian-United States relations :( Some claims of WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES have been made but I see no sources provided here or added to the article that suggest this building, or institution, is notable. Since User:Isip2 westboro said they want to work on this in the coming weeks, drafitication is a reasonable solution~, with a temporary redirect to List of ambassadors of Bulgaria to the United States in the meantime. Editors interested in ensuring this entity survives in some wiki form are also encouraged to think about Wikivoyage and on-Wikipedia lists.--<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:05, 30 April 2021 (UTC)


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