Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Embassy of India, Santo Domingo


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge. Barkeep49 (talk) 17:39, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Embassy of India, Santo Domingo

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This embassy does not even exist yet. Coverage is about intent to open an embassy. Also nominating for same reasons:

LibStar (talk) 23:07, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bilateral relations-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 23:12, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 23:12, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 23:12, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Estonia-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 23:12, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Article passes GNGTEST. This article also passes SNG.
 * As per SNG
 * Organizations are usually notable if they meet both of the following standards:


 * 1) The scope of their activities is national or international in scale.
 * 2) The organization has received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of the organization.


 * Let us discuss these two criteria in details -
 * The scope of their activities is national or international in scale.
 * This article is about a diplomatic mission of India to Dominican Republic. By default topic is international in scale.


 * The organization has received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of the organization.
 * Embassy opening announcement comes from the official government site as well as notable media organizations.


 * Embassies are notable and even general upcoming construction/proposed projects which are well covered by the media do pass notability and they do get dedicated pages.
 * Upcoming tallest buildings under construction pass notability and they do get dedicated articles as well.
 * Upcoming movies do get Wikipedia pages even before theatrical release.
 * Same way, as long as Embassy opening is announced in multiple notable sources - it should be on Wikipedia.


 * In short, As per GNGTEST and SNG, this article should be on Wikipedia.

--AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 01:15, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. For the things AbhiSuryawanshi describes, we have relations pages. India-x relations. Standalone articles about these buildings are of no use whatsoever. Geschichte (talk) 16:51, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I would also like to draw your attention to WP:CONTENTSPLIT. Sometimes two or more distinct topics may share the same base title or similar titles, such as "light", which may refer to electromagnetic radiation, a component that produces light, or spiritual illumination. Sometimes the distinct topics may be closely related, such as Coffea (the plant) and coffee (the product), or thermal energy and heat. Embassy articles have enough content like address, list of Ambassadors, history of diplomatic mission, scholarships given etc. Other sub-articles like list of ambassadors to x country can be redirected/merged into Embassy article. --AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 00:13, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * We have Country, City, Town articles and even small stub articles are dedicated to small towns and cities. Even within city article, Mayor of city gets separate article and other municipality also gets dedicated page. Same way, x-y relations can have dedicated page along with mention of the Embassy. Embassy page can have its own detailed information like list of ambassadors, local (notable) events and activities hosted by the embassy etc. Ambassador of embassy (if notable) then will get separate page as well. Pages take time to develop over a period of time. As long as basic notability is satisfied - more time should be given to others to develop the article. Even if article stays in stub stage for longer, it is fine as per wiki standards. I hope these examples make sense. --AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 04:24, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Non notable embassy, fails WP:GNG. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 03:38, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:01, 26 October 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  13:48, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep; These individual AfD’s argue either two things, the notability of individual embassies or the underlying question whether all embassies are inherently notable or not. There are approximately 15,000 embassies in the world and the question boils down to whether that’s too many for Wikipedia and or whether the X-Y relations pages are adequate. Absent significant coverage, I do expect many such articles will remain stubs, but don’t see that as a problem. It’s structured information with strong potential for long term expansion. If a country/mission were to collapse/merge like German Democratic Republic I could see the argument for merging articles less likely to be expanded, but that’s not the case with these live institutions. For the sake of saving everyone’s time at AfD let’s have a proper discussion about fate of embassy articles in general. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 07:28, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to Dominican Republic–India relations/Estonia–India relations. Embassies are not automatically notable, and these don't show to be exceptions. Reywas92Talk 13:41, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL and the subject's failure of WP:SIGCOV. Political projects sometimes fall through, and there is no guarantee that this embassy will ever be built and get staffed/open until it actually happens. Article can always be recreated once the embassy is actually in operation and has sources which pass GNG.4meter4 (talk) 01:45, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - as per the reasons and support stated above. Utkarsh555 (talk) 14:22, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per Reywas92. The coverage in the references cited is ultimately coverage of relations between the two countries, and almost nothing about the actual embassies themselves. FOARP (talk) 14:19, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to Dominican Republic–India relations and Estonia–India relations respectively, as an WP:ATD. MrsSnoozyTurtle 01:04, 13 November 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.