Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Embassy of India, Sofia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of diplomatic missions of India. The "keep" !vites are a mix of WP:ITSNOTABLE or WP:ILIKEIT (and one of them was by a blocked sockpuppet). Redirecting to List of diplomatic missions of India so that any content worth merging is still available from the article histories. Randykitty (talk) 16:19, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Embassy of India, Sofia

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fails WP:GNG, the article is based on primary sources. Embassies are not inherently notable and the article merely confirms the embassy exists. Also nominating: LibStar (talk) 00:29, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Embassy of India, Bogotá
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 03:20, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bulgaria-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 03:20, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 03:20, 21 October 2021 (UTC)


 * KEEP: I disagree that embassies are not notable. If that is the case, shoudn't the US Embassy also be deleted?Advait (talk) 06:05, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:ITSNOTABLE is not a reason for keeping. also WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. LibStar (talk) 06:08, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Embassies are not inherently notable. See Articles for deletion/Embassy of Germany in Palestine, Articles for deletion/Embassy of Sweden, Tirana, Articles for deletion/Afghan Embassy In Turkmenistan, Articles for deletion/Embassy of Tanzania, Berlin, Articles for deletion/Embassy of Ivory Coast, Ottawa, Articles for deletion/Embassy of Colombia, Beijing, Articles for deletion/Embassy of The Republic of Serbia, Canberra, ACT. This list was from another user in an AfD. LibStar (talk) 06:12, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * By same logic, just because above articles are deleted that doesnt mean each and every article must be deleted which starts with Embassy word. You have given list of articles deleted and I can share articles which are not deleted. Nothing is inherently notable (or not notable) on Wikipedia unless and until references are provided.--AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 07:55, 21 October 2021 (UTC)


 * KEEP: Article passes GNGTEST as well as SNG criteria.
 * As per SNG
 * Organizations are usually notable if they meet both of the following standards:


 * 1) The scope of their activities is national or international in scale.
 * 2) The organization has received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of the organization.


 * Let us discuss these two criteria in details -
 * The scope of their activities is national or international in scale.
 * This article is about a diplomatic mission of India to Bulgaria. By default topic is international in scale.


 * The organization has received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of the organization.
 * Embassy related updates are covered by Indian media as well as Bulgarian media from time to time. WP:SUSTAINED applies here.
 * In short, As this article passes SNG and GNGTEST, article deserves to be on Wikipedia. --AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 08:10, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * "Embassy related updates are covered by Indian media as well as Bulgarian media from time to time", where is the evidence of significant indepth coverage? LibStar (talk) 23:27, 21 October 2021 (UTC)


 * KEEP : AS per the reasons mentioned. Utkarsh555 (talk) 09:18, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:PERX, you haven't stated your own justifications. LibStar (talk) 23:27, 21 October 2021 (UTC)


 * KEEP : Embassies are notable viz., GNGTEST and SNG criteria. Check the 'Embassy of' categories. --Whiteguru (talk) 15:21, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * embassies are not inherently notable. LibStar (talk) 23:27, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bilateral relations-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:28, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Colombia-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:28, 21 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. Standalone articles about these buildings are of no use whatsoever. We have relations pages, India-x relations, and these are nowhere the size that they need to be split. The above opinions are grounded in a superficial view of policy, and the likeness between the !votes is just strange. Geschichte (talk) 21:18, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: Embassies are not just like any other buildings. It is group of diplomats/official representatives with or without actual physical building. Split is not always because of size. Municipal corporation of city will have mention of mayor and list of mayor will be separate list (as long as all wiki policies are followed). India-x relations will have mention of embassy however list of ambassadors, notable events/activities hosted by embassy can be on separate page. Here is one example -


 * 1) United Kingdom–United States relations
 * 2) Embassy of the United States, London
 * 3) List of ambassadors of the United States to the United Kingdom
 * 4) Winfield House - the official residence of the United States Ambassador to the United Kingdom.
 * WP:WHATABOUT is not an excuse, I am sharing it as a possibility in which these embassy articles generally go. Anything without notability must be deleted from Wikipedia however stub articles which have basic notability take time to develop and time should be given to stub articles to develop over a period of time. As long as basic notability criteria is satisfied, article can exist and other people will develop it over a period of time.--AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 04:45, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: or may be it can be merged with either with Bulgaria–India relations or List of diplomatic missions of India. Utkarsh555 (talk) 14:52, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * you have already !voted previously. LibStar (talk) 22:52, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 01:50, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Embassies are not inherently notable and this article and debate contains no suggestion that there is anything which would make this one an exception. Stifle (talk) 12:23, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of diplomatic missions of India which in fact an editor did to Embassy of India, Bogotá before I reverted a short while ago as being inappropriate while the AFD is pending. I agree with the delete !votes that the are no reliable sources speaking about these specific embassies. They exist, they carry out the business of their government, but these locations, like many others, have not garnered particular notice. Link them in the list article, and if reliable sources take specific note of these locations they can be broken back out. The keep voters, despite asserting notability, have not actually pointed to sourcing establishing it. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  00:24, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree on redirecting EVERY Indian embassy to the list. Utkarsh555 (talk) 03:22, 14 November 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.