Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Embassy of Mexico, Prague


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   nomination withdrawn as now redirected. LibStar (talk) 15:53, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Embassy of Mexico, Prague

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Fails WP:ORG. Embassies are not inherently notable. No bilateral article to redirect to either. LibStar (talk) 12:34, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom - embassies aren't inherently notable and this one wouldn't seem to meet either WP:GNG or WP:ORGDEPTH.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 00:28, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  15:18, 5 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep or move to the bilateral relations article that is appropriate to have, but does not yet currently exist. I am trying to remember specific similar past AFDs resolved this way. I think it seems to be the case that bilateral relationships are valid topics, so start that and redirect this. -- do  ncr  am  22:01, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Saint Kitts and Nevis–United Kingdom relations and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines–United Kingdom relations as examples. That said, the relationship in question would need to be notable - not just created as a non-notable redirect target for the sake of inexplicable inclusionism.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 22:58, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Okay then move this article to Mexico and Czech Republic relations or Czech and Mexico relations or whatever is any other okay title for a bilateral relations article, and develop.  For example, this google book source is a 2008 report on Czech relations with a section on Mexico and there will be others in:
 * And this leaves a redirect from the Embassy of Mexico, Prague topic, and mention that embassy in the article, or not. Develop a separate article again about the embassy if/when historic nature of the building or whatever comes to light.  This is best resolution of an AFD once started, not to delete the contribution(s) and not to offend the contributor(s).  IMHO the AFD was not necessary as this is a known better solution and one could move the article without requiring multiple editors' attention and all other costs involved in an AFD. -- do  ncr  am  00:52, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * For example, mention Václav Havel's 1990 visit to Mexico which was the first Czechoslovak government head's visit to any Latin American country, per this google book source found in Mexico Czechoslovakia relations search and so on. -- do ncr  am  00:57, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * That's fine and I'd be happy with that solution once that article is created. So many of these ended as no consensus because they deserved to be deleted but nobody could be bothered to create the articles to redirect them to. I created a couple of them and still the AFDs ended as no consensus because people couldn't even be bothered contributing to the discussion, even when pinged to reconsider previous opinions. I'll support a redirection/merger once that target article exists. Until then, this doesn't meet our inclusion criteria and should be deleted as no genuine alternative to deletion exists.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 02:48, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, i boldly moved the article to Mexico-Czech relations and put in low effort to make it an article, including making the bland, meaningless assertion that relations between the two countries are "important". Importance is not defined.  Sorry, Stalwart111, i expect this is less than what you want, but I think this resolves it, as a "target article" exists and is a valid topic.  So, go ahead and tag the article as inadequate in various ways, but IMHO this resolves the AFD, which can be closed "KEEP" ratifying the current article. -- do  ncr  am  13:58, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * For example, mention Václav Havel's 1990 visit to Mexico which was the first Czechoslovak government head's visit to any Latin American country, per this google book source found in Mexico Czechoslovakia relations search and so on. -- do ncr  am  00:57, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * That's fine and I'd be happy with that solution once that article is created. So many of these ended as no consensus because they deserved to be deleted but nobody could be bothered to create the articles to redirect them to. I created a couple of them and still the AFDs ended as no consensus because people couldn't even be bothered contributing to the discussion, even when pinged to reconsider previous opinions. I'll support a redirection/merger once that target article exists. Until then, this doesn't meet our inclusion criteria and should be deleted as no genuine alternative to deletion exists.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 02:48, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, i boldly moved the article to Mexico-Czech relations and put in low effort to make it an article, including making the bland, meaningless assertion that relations between the two countries are "important". Importance is not defined.  Sorry, Stalwart111, i expect this is less than what you want, but I think this resolves it, as a "target article" exists and is a valid topic.  So, go ahead and tag the article as inadequate in various ways, but IMHO this resolves the AFD, which can be closed "KEEP" ratifying the current article. -- do  ncr  am  13:58, 7 September 2014 (UTC)


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