Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Embassy of Serbia, Minsk


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The opinion that the building is notable has not convinced the other contributors to the discussion.  Sandstein  12:27, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Embassy of Serbia, Minsk

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fails WP:GNG. embassies are not inherently notable, unless the building has some historic notability, or the embassy is a place of many notable events. LibStar (talk) 06:44, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Serbia-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 09:56, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete as lacking in-depth coverage from independent third party sources. Stuartyeates (talk) 05:47, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, v/r - TP 15:26, 16 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - Concur with Stuartyeates & LibStar. NickCT (talk) 16:04, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - while the embassy might not be notable, the building is. Its the only surviving building by Konstantin Melnikov in Minsk, and features in many books on Soviet avantgarde architecture. Pantherskin (talk) 11:27, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * please provide sources to back your claims. LibStar (talk) 13:46, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * from this Konstantin_Melnikov the buildings listed are all in Moscow not Minsk. LibStar (talk) 13:55, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * See the authoritative monograph by Khan-Magomedov on Konstantin Melnikov, page 384ff for a complete list of his buildings, and page 34-35 for a discussion of the building in Belgrade Minsk. Added to article.
 * Belgrade? We are talking about Minsk. How did you find this source? LibStar (talk) 21:36, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * even from a google search I find no reference Melnikov designing the Serbian embassy in Minsk. LibStar (talk) 23:57, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not a good practice to base articles in an encyclopedia on google search results. In particular on ENGLISH search results, when the article is about a building in a region where English is far from being widespread. I am sure other sources can be found, given the prominence Khan-Magomedov gives to building of Melnikov. But for that a trip to the library is needed. Pantherskin (talk) 07:39, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * my local library does not have that book. i'm open to foreign language sources but Konstantin Melnikov is a famous enough designer to have english language coverage. LibStar (talk) 07:45, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * nor does this appear to be coverage in Russian or Serbian that confirms Melnikov's involvement in this building in Minsk. LibStar (talk) 07:47, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * As I said, you don't build an encyclopedia by relying on Google search results. We now know that at least one authoritative monograph attaches enough importance to the building to discuss it in detail. I am sure other books on Melnikov discuss this building too. In other words, this is sufficient to establish notability. It's the deletion discussion of Consulate-General of Japan in Saint Petersburg all over again - despite reliable sources provided by Russavia you were not willing to reconsider your deletion nomination. I am wondering why? Pantherskin (talk) 08:02, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * PS: If you search in Russian for a building build by Melnikov you should use the genitive case. Pantherskin (talk) 08:05, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * we are not here to debate the notability of other articles, nor can this be used as a basis of arguing keep here for something far weaker in notability than the Japanese consulate. Unless evidence of significant coverage is found this fails WP:GNG. You would have expected at least a passing mention in Serbian but zilch. LibStar (talk) 09:00, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * WP may not be built on google searches, but it's built on significant coverage in reliable sources which is clearly lacking here. also nothing in Ukrainian. LibStar (talk) 05:53, 24 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   16:57, 24 November 2011 (UTC)


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