Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Embassy of the United States in Oslo


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The result was   Withdrawn by nominator as it was heading for speedy keep. LibStar (talk) 07:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Embassy of the United States in Oslo

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fails WP:ORG. please note that we do not create articles for all US embassies, only notable ones. Any useful info from this article should be in List of diplomatic missions of the United States and United States Ambassador to Norway. LibStar (talk) 02:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Then you need to pick one: having the cake or eating it. Deletion and merger are mutually incompatible. Uncle G (talk) 02:49, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * it contains little useful information, so support delete. LibStar (talk) 02:51, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * An article on a notable topic containing "little useful information" is reason to improve it, not delete it.--Oakshade (talk) 06:22, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Merging is not an option. List of missions follows a fixed format with no place for anything more than already present. Merging Embassy (a larger subject) to Ambassador (part of Embassy) defies logic. I am not aware if Eero Saarinen needs any expansion on this building, looks like it doesn't. Norway – United States relations, perhaps, is the best merge target ... but I'm afraid it's on Libstar's red list as well. NVO (talk) 05:38, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - The American diplomatic mission in one of the most important NATO countries during the cold war is certainly notable in itself. That it's an Eero Saarinen designed building makes this topic's inclusion without question; Just books about Saarinen alone  demonstrate significant coverage of this building by secondary sources.  Even when it opened in 1955, the New York Times wrote an article about it..  And the proposed new location the embassy is continuing to make press in such publications like Dagbladet.  There's probably a lot more sources in Finnish and bokmål.  All of this took no more than a mintue to find.  AfDs take at least a few minutes to create for me.  Another example of why WP:BEFORE needs to be a absolute requirement.  --Oakshade (talk) 06:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC) Update: found a few bokmål articles about the embassy's possible move in sources such as Dagsavisen  and the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation --Oakshade (talk) 06:37, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * why do you say searches in Finnish about this embassy? there is no large Finnish speaking population in Norway? LibStar (talk) 06:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * perhaps something about the building's architect who was born in Finland? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 07:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - The article needs expansion not deletion. Thre is a gorwing series of articles about U.S. Embassies, and Oslo should remain part of thatRockford1963 (talk) 06:19, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep it's a bit thin on details but what has been come up with - which should be added to the article - show the notability of the building, that will remain regardless if it is repurposed as may indeed by the case. On a technical note: is the embassy of the US in Oslo the building or the delegation? Same grammatical conundum accompanies "St. Whomever's Church, Anytown" where it is ambiguous whether we are talking about the structure, the congregation, or what gets preached from the pulpit. Here, it seems specific to a notable building and that's a keep by me. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 07:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
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