Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emily Middlemas


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of The X Factor finalists (UK series 13). Most content seems to have already been merged there. Randykitty (talk) 11:46, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Emily Middlemas

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. 4th place xfactor finish does not make one notable.  Onel 5969  TT me 18:30, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
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Yep, I take full responsibility as the creator of the article that it should be turned into a redirection to her section on the series 13 list. Delete the page lol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joesimnett (talk • contribs) 23:21, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of The X Factor finalists (UK series 13). — ᴀnemone  ᴘroᴊecтors  14:56, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep I did a little digging. She was in a band called Loud N Proud. She is also a song writer for herself. She has released songs in 2017 and 2018.SWP13 (talk) 02:11, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you explain how she passes WP:MUSICBIO? — ᴀnemone  ᴘroᴊecтors  17:07, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep As the main contributor of Emily Middlemas, I propose that the page should be kept. According to WP:MUSICBIO, section 1, Middlemas passes. She has been featured in several online and print publications. Also, section 12 is passed in some respects. She was one of the finalists on The X Factor; that in itself is an achievement. — Joesimnett (talk) 17;43, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Criterion 12 would apply if there had been a TV show or radio programme about Emily Middlemas. For The X Factor, number 9 applies. — ᴀnemone  ᴘroᴊecтors  17:53, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Criterion 4, however, also applies to Middlemas, as she has gone on two national tours; The X Factor Live Tour (2017) and The Memory Lane Tour (2018). — Joesimnett (talk) 18:08, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Criterion 4 says "Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country" not "has gone on tour". The X Factor Live Tour isn't her own tour, it's a part of The X Factor that the majority of finalists are invited to each year so doesn't give her additional notability outside of The X Factor. I Googled the other tour and got only 98 results, most of which are not independent reliable sources. — ᴀnemone  ᴘroᴊecтors  19:07, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 14:35, 11 December 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The "keep" !votes are not very compelling at this point and could perhaps be fleshed out a bit.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 13:38, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect. I agree that the proper place on wikipedia for this subject is on the List of The X Factor finalists (UK series 13). Outside of her involvement with that show/tour, there simply aren't enough examples of significant, independent coverage in reliable sources. Coverage that does exist in reliable sources are routine coverage accorded to any contestant who made the finals. The keep arguments above fall under WP:EXIST. ShelbyMarion (talk) 21:19, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep has significant coverage in muktiple national newspapers which is not routine coverage as appearing repeatedly in one of the top five most popular shows in the UK and making the finals is not routine for a singer. There is also coverage in rs of her singles so it is more than WP:BLP1E Atlantic306 (talk) 18:04, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - It is routine coverage for any X Factor contestant. — 🌼📽️Anemone  Projectors💬  18:25, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect, this is absolutely routine coverage for any contestant and she does not otherwise pass WP:NMUSIC. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 02:18, 26 December 2018 (UTC)


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