Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emmanuval Silks


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The result was   delete. T. Canens (talk) 01:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Emmanuval Silks

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I've declined the speedy on this one, because I feel it asserts enough importance to pass A7. However, all references are press releases. Delete.  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 18:18, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
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 * Weak Keep - The coverage is not completely press release material. Staff Writers in the Hindu and Express give that feel of regurgitating press releases and usually do some actual reporting for such cases. I vote keep because the company was noteworthy enough for both The Hindu and The New Indian Express to report on it (GNG). But weak because of the anemic nature of coverage. I will remove the weak if more extensive coverage can be found (it surely exists in Malayala Manorama or Mathrubhumi) --Sodabottle (talk) 06:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Media Coverage
 * I agree with you completely on coverage in English dailies like The Hindu and The Indian Express. In Kerala people don't go to shopping by reading English newspapers. They read Malayalam dailies like Malayala Manorama and Mathrubhumi, which have news on these business ventures. Most of the advertisements go to Malayalam dailies and magazines. So most English newspapers have less news items on these jewelries and sarees showrooms.


 * These are the upcoming retiling companies in South India. Its reach in English media may be less but not in bilingual languages. The showrooms and the cash flow of these business groups will put shame on Tata Groups’ retail arm, Trent and Pantaloons.
 * 124.124.211.93 (talk) 12:42, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply: If these companies are "upcoming" then it means now is not the right time for a Wikipedia article. If they "will" put to shame some other company, then there "will" be a Wikipedia article, but not now. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 12:56, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Kerala dailies have less news on business. So even yoy exclude banks, so have less news articles publised in Malyalam dailes. Textile and jewelry companies are same like Tata and Ambani. Only change is that these people sell garments and textiles. It may have less prominence beacuse Kerala is not a business society but a remitance society. So you can find less news on business in newspapers and websites.

Jomy Jos Pullokaran 14:36, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * This is what, in Wikipedia, we call systemic bias. Unfortunately, because of Wikipedia's policy on verifiability, we have no choice but to remain biased when it comes to evaluating the notability of topics from outside the Occidental world where references about businesses are a dime a dozen. The best that can be done to correct the bias is bending the guidelines on reliable sources, and even that can only go so far. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 15:13, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

This is an article came in Dhanam, Kerala's No 1 business magazine. It talks about various Kerala based groups. You can see Emmanuval Silks in Page No 47. The magazine has refered Emmanuval Silks as one of the top family run business groups.

http://www.ezinemart.com/dhanam/15062009/pdf/pagetemp.pdf - Page No 47

Jomy Jos Pullokaran 18:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  00:24, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Week Delete No indication of size and prominence. The only notable is the proposed "largest textile showroom (in the country and/or world) which may justify a keep but only after such a record is validated. --Deepak D'Souza (talk) 08:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * delete coverage doesn't look independent enough. Spartaz Humbug! 07:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete. Appears to lack significant coverage originating from independent sources. -- Pink Bull  21:56, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
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