Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Empire State Demon Knights


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The result was delete. Davewild (talk) 19:23, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Empire State Demon Knights

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Fails WP:ORG as a non-notable semi-professional football team. The league doesn't even have an article and there aren't any independent, relevant sources. Most of the sources are primary and/or routine and prove that the team exists, but not that they are notable. -- Tavix ( talk ) 14:08, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 14:08, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete although the idea that the league doesn't have an article on Wikipedia isn't valid (that may just mean it should be created--Wikipedia is far from complete), I still land on delete for this one. Based on the sources held in the article, I see no independent third-party sources that speak to the notability of this organization.  There are a few player bios from other leagues that may be considered independent third party, but those articles do not speak to this team, just to players on the team.  I do not see this article passing WP:GNG or any other notability guideline I can find.  I would change my position if such information were presented.--Paul McDonald (talk) 20:23, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * My rationale for deletion is WP:ORG. While the league not having an article is not a valid reason for deletion, it's still a valid idea to be made known. I'm presenting what I know about the team in my rationale, and that's one of the things I know, so I included it. It is more of an FYI than anything... -- Tavix  ( talk ) 20:32, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * No worries.--Paul McDonald (talk) 21:27, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't think so, just wanted to clarify. Cheers. -- Tavix  ( talk ) 21:30, 29 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. Appear to fail both WP:ORG and WP:GNG. Cbl62 (talk) 21:53, 29 June 2015 (UTC)


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