Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Empire Trust Company


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  11:06, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Empire Trust Company

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Unsourced since 2009, no sources found, not likely to be notable Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 21:12, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions.  M assiveYR   ♠  21:26, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  M assiveYR   ♠  21:26, 21 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails GNG, references fail WP:CORPDEPTH and/or WP:ORGIND. -- HighKing ++ 15:14, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment – Google Books is providing coverage of this company to varying degrees. North America1000 01:59, 29 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to Irving Trust. Not enough standalone history without hunting through the NY Times archives, but here's an interesting timeline that someone may want to pick through. [] There's also an unsourced timeline Bank of New York that contradicts the article. 1966: The Bank (of New York) acquired the Empire Trust Company. scripophily.net says Empire Trust was acquired by BNY in 1989, but the name had already changed to Irvine Trust.  Some other sourcing here for the timeline []  If this closes as merge and redirect, I'll take a shot at cleaning it up. TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  22:42, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Scroll down to Empire State Trust Company in the ny.gov source. Here's the text - if this is a copyvio posting it here, please feel free to delete my comment.

Empire State Trust Company 1901 Established Empire State Bank (1901-1902) 1902 Bank To Trust Co. Empire State Trust Company 03/01/1904 Merge To State McVickar Realty Trust Company 03/01/1904 Name Change To Empire Trust Company 12/01/1966 Merge To State Bank of New York, The (9/1922-10/1989) 10/06/1989 Merge To State Irving Trust Company 10/06/1989 Name Change To Bank of New York, The

Empire Trust Company 1902 Established McVickar Realty Trust Company 03/01/1904 Acquire By Merger Empire State Trust Company 03/01/1904 Name Change To Empire Trust Company 02/01/1913 Acquire By Merger Guardian Trust Company of New York 02/01/1913 Acquire By Merger Windsor Trust Company 07/01/1924 Acquire By Merger Hudson Trust Company 12/01/1966 Merge To State Bank of New York, The (9/1922-10/1989) 10/06/1989 Merge To State Irving Trust Company 10/06/1989 Name Change To Bank of New York, The TimTempleton (talk) (cont)  22:46, 29 August 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I have access to the NY Times archives, so I did some searching. Sadly, I only found a few very short bits about the company; they were all just notices of the form, Empire Trust Company appointed so-and-so to such-and-such executive position.  I did find one longish article, the summary of which is The thirty-three-story Empire Trust Building at 580-586 Fifth Avenue, northwest corner of Fortyseventh Street, has been acquired by an investment group headed by Louis J. Glickman in a transaction which also involved the resale and leasing back of the land.  Unfortunately, I can't find anything which ties the Empire Trust Building to the Empire Trust Company beyond the name similarity.  I didn't do enough research to justify a real opinion here, just wanted to report my findings.  -- RoySmith (talk) 22:56, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:51, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete -- no sources to meet WP:CORPDEPTH. No need for a redirect as the company is not sufficiently notable to be a valid search term. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:51, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete References fail WP:CORPDEPTH and/or WP:ORGIND. No indications of meeting the criteria for notability. -- HighKing ++ 16:32, 3 September 2017 (UTC)


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