Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Empress City Mall, Nagpur


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The result was   redirect to Nagpur.  MBisanz  talk 00:08, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Empress City Mall, Nagpur
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Flat-out fails WP:GNG and WP:G11. It has not been a subject of significant coverage in secondary sources. Period. Mr T (Talk?)  [ (New thread?) ] 18:12, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:47, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:47, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep, plenty of google hits. Mentioned in national media, such as http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2010-12-18/nagpur/28229213_1_parking-problems-traffic-police-motorists . see also http://www.nagpurtoday.in/due-to-negligence-of-empress-mall-youth-stuck-in-lift/ There is an article about the mall in Economic Times, but it is not freely available --Soman (talk) 09:10, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * See, plenty of google hits may not be proof of the subject's notability. One does not need to create an article on a news story covered in 109 newspapers. Besides, the page you linked, that is simply coverage of an event (maybe it is non-notable itself). Articles will not simply be kept because they are of timely importance. Per WP:NOTNEWSPAPER - Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events. While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion. For example, routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Timely news subjects not suitable for Wikipedia may be suitable for our sister project Wikinews. Mr T  (Talk?)  [ (New thread?) ] 13:35, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment: The question is: Is the place notable? From what I read on the web it appears to be one the larger malls in the region. We do have articles for malls of similar scale and visibility like Garuda Mall, Mantri Square. There even a List of shopping malls in India Our treatment ought to be uniform and consistent. Arunram (talk) 12:24, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 01:32, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Delete. Notability is inherited, the mall itself is not notable. 1292simon (talk) 02:09, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 23:28, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

 
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:59, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

 
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 03:17, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep but stubify, or remove promotional unsourced material and improve per sources found by Soman. LK (talk) 03:35, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Why esp. when it fails WP:GNG so blatantly? Mr T  (Talk?)  [ (New thread?) ] 04:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Nagpur - The two news articles provided by Soman are not sufficient for notability as one mentions traffic issues and the other an incident involving an elevator malfunctioning. A Google News search provided this, this and this (all three announce when the mall opened), this and this (both of these mention one of the retail stores, Pantaloon), this (mentions a construction incident involving injuries and death) and this and this (parking incidents). I found other links but they were either blacklist websites or simply not useful. The property's owner has a page on this mall which mentions the architect, Hafeez, here, which is currently mentioned in the article. It's possible some sources may not be English but I doubt it because English is probably mainly used with business in India especially with modern structures like malls. However, this amount of coverage does make it relevant to Nagpur so a redirect would be a good option. SwisterTwister   talk  06:55, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
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