Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Endurance game


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. L Faraone  00:01, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Endurance game

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nonnotable category of games and not discussed in literature. WP:COATRACK for a misguided idea that resistance to alcohol intoxication is a factor of winning games, when it is a unrelated concept of physiology thus conflating unrelated concepts. Curb Chain (talk) 04:34, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  04:42, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  04:43, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar   &middot;   &middot;  00:32, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep The eskimo contests like ear-pulling are well documented and it seems sensible to cover the topic with a global perspective as these things are a staple of reality shows now. The worst case would be merger into a similar topic like endurance sport and so WP:PRESERVE applies. Warden (talk) 12:09, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Endurance sport was never an article; it was a redirect to triathlon and is currently a redirect to . Pain contests or contests to see who can endure the most pain is not a staple of reality shows now nor have they ever been; the contests cover a wide range of skills and endurance to pain is almost never one of them, nor would it be possible to identify such a case in a reality show "elimination" game as discussed before, since the minigames/contests/game tests a wide range of skills concurrently.
 * ear pulling is has its own article, and is the only "game"/instance where reliably sourced endurance of pain is tested.Curb Chain (talk) 19:13, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Endurance is not just about pain, as the article explains. In the reality shows, fear or disgust are more commonly the stress, as for example, when someone is buried alive in coffin full of worms.  Anyway, it's not difficult to find more sources for pain too, e.g. Games of Pain.  I'm quite good at these myself; perhaps this accounts for my stamina at AFD :). Warden (talk) 17:06, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. I'm finding it hard to understand the rationale for deletion here, as the nominator has concentrated on minor aspects of the topic as if they were the whole topic. Firstly we are told that the article exists only as a coatrack for a "miguided idea" about alcohol, and then that it is only about endurance of pain. These can't both be true simultaneously, and neither describes our article, which is about games based on any kind of endurance, including endurance of intoxication, endurance of pain and endurance of many other things. The genre of TV show described first received widespread publicity in the UK when Clive James used to show clips of Za Gaman on his programmme, and there have been many other examples since, such as I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! Phil Bridger (talk) 17:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
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