Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Engagement announcement dress of Catherine Middleton


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was procedural close. The majority of comments below address the procedural issues with this debate, although I acknowledge a couple do address SIGCOV etc. Closing as procedural close, so as to not prejudice a future nomination at a more suitable time. Further, potential merge/etc can be dealt with at Proposed article mergers or other talk page discussions. Daniel (talk) 23:49, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Engagement announcement dress of Catherine Middleton

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Per Articles for deletion/Green cape dress of Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, not quite notable, unlike her wedding dress, propose merge with Draft:Fashion of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge.  Peter Ormond &#128172;  07:25, 20 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep The Meghan AfD has not been closed, does not seem to have a consensus, and so it's too soon to be rushing to start more like it. Merger into a draft is problematic because the draft has yet to be accepted and, in any case, would not be done by deletion.  Please calm down and slow down. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:34, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The Meghan AfD is now at DRV and so now this is becoming a WP:TRAINWRECK. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:54, 20 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:45, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:45, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Royalty and nobility-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:45, 20 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep, there is WP:SIGCOV from multiple magazines, a newspaper, and a major website. These sources have established notablity. NemesisAT (talk) 22:58, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Changed to speedy keep per other participants. The result of an improperly closed discussion isn't a valid reason for deleting another article. NemesisAT (talk) 23:19, 20 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep. Meets WP:SIGCOV + a fair argument can be made for it's sustained coverage.   --Bettydaisies (talk) 23:16, 20 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment: Quoting users from Meghan AfD: "Coverage is also there for other royal dresses, but we can't have articles on all of them on Wikipedia. Every dress royals wear gets reported in the media. The Travolta dress and the Revenge dress got critical commentary regarding their public impact or the political statement made by the style, timing etc e.g. the revenge dress. This dress has none of that. Also, should articles be made about, for instance, the dress Meghan wore to the Lion King premiere in 2018,     the dress Princess Anne wore to Royal Ascot in 2015,      or the dress Catherine wore to Wimbledon a week ago?"


 * Also, WP:NOTNEWSPAPER and WP:SUSTAINED.  Peter Ormond &#128172;  16:19, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep. With the topic article drafts being developed, there’s no reason this couldn’t have waited for a merge proposal instead of rushing to AfD. I echo Andrew’s advice to slow down here. Innisfree987 (talk) 16:35, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep Well, this is not a normal dress that she would wear randomly on an outing. It is in the same category as her wedding dress, something that she would only wear once in her lifetime. And as other users pointed out, sustained and continuous coverage is the reason for the subject's notability. I'd suggest keeping the article at this point. A potential merge could be discussed once the draft on her fashion is finally done. Keivan.f  Talk 18:02, 21 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Judge each article on its own sources, if someone is happy to write an article on those topics and can find adequate sourcing to pass WP:GNG, I say go ahead. NemesisAT (talk) 18:05, 21 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to Catherine Middleton. I don't see how this meets WP:GNG for a stand-alone article? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:59, 22 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.