Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/England and Portugal football rivalry


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The result was delete. WjBscribe 22:15, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

England and Portugal football rivalry

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unsourced, weasel words, and a kick in the gonads and a disallowed goal does not make a rivalry. Will (I hope they cannot see, I AM THE GREAT DESTROYER!) 23:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC) http://www.britishcouncil.org/japan-sport-footballculture-teams-alliance-2.htm http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2069994,00.html From an English perspective: http://portugal.worldcupblog.org/group-d/mission-england.html I hope that you will try to keep this article. Wwicki 14:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * As of know, it reads as original resarch, so delete. If sources can be found, that specifically and primarily deals with "the england portugal football rivalry" (not merely sources on the incidents in the article) I wouldn't mind keeping it. Dr bab 06:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC).
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. ChrisTheDude 07:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete There most definitely is rivalry between England and Argentina & also withGermany, it is part of popular culture and expounded upon in the press in England when the teams meet. But England and Portugal? No, certainly not yet. Especially when there most definitley is football rivalry between, for instance, England Scotland, yet no article exists for that rivalry (not that I can find anyway). ♦Tangerines BFC ♦ · Talk 13:50, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep There most certainly is a rivalry between England and Portugal. I would even rate it as more serious than England and Argentina because there have been recent meet-ups between the two teams. Take a look at Wikipedia and see how many furious English football fans are posting their anti-portuguese rubbish. Also, if you think there are weasel words then find a way to fix them before immediately doing the heavy step of putting this article in "Articles for Deletion". As quoted by the Wikipedia deletion policy: "if the page can be improved, this should be solved through regular editing, rather than deletion". No one has barely even taken the time to edit this page. Here are some sources that show that this rivalry really exists out of Wikipedia:
 * Delete By this logic, England could be said to have rivalries with half of Europe.  Archibald99   15:03, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * CommentSome English football fans posting anti-portugese rubbish, does not prove that there is a football rivalry between the two countries. It does though prove the ignorance of those people posting such comments and nothing else. Also, none of the sources provided to prove this rivalry actually prove there is a rivalry. One is an online blog, which is not a reliable source to prove the existence of this alleged rivalry. The British Council link is not even about football, it is about the two countries historically, in which the writer adds "In the last few decades, there has been trading of sorts in footballing terms." And he then tries to expound on his theory, but he still initially refers to it only as "a trading of sorts in footballing terms". That again does not prove the existence of any real rivalry. And the third link doesn't really discuss any rivalry to any extent. As an English football fan, I would not consider Portugal as any sort of traditional or modern day rival, certainly no more than any other country. As for the so called rivalry between England and Portugal being more serious than that between England and Argentina - sorry but you are absolutely wrong. And to even suggest that the rivalry is less serious is, with respect, missing the entire history of the England and Argentina football rivalry. ♦Tangerines BFC ♦ · Talk 15:18, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete The countries have contested two notable matches in recent years, but that does not constitute a rivalry. Oldelpaso 17:18, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete A borderline rivalry if a rivalry at all. Kingjamie 20:23, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Hardly a rivalry, just chance that the two teams have played each other at successive tournaments. Qwghlm 08:25, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above. No more rivalry than with say, Germany. → Aktar (talk • contribs) &mdash; 10:26, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
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