Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Enrique R. Falabella


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The result was redirect to List of general authorities of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Rough consensus that redirect is the logical option given the failure to demonstrate necessary coverage for any biographical figure per WP:BASIC (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear (talk) 22:57, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Enrique R. Falabella

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Non-notable subject that does not meet WP:BASIC. Coverage found in searches for independent, reliable sources is limited to a few fleeting passing mentions, quotations from the subject and name checks. The article is reliant on primary sources, which do not serve to establish notability for Wikipedia's purposes. In performing WP:BEFORE source searching, I found this source, but it is a primary source because 1) it was originally published by Church News, which is owned by the LDS church, and 2) it consists mostly of quotations from the subject. Furthermore, per: WP:SPIP: "The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the topic itself (or of its manufacturer, creator, author, inventor, or vendor) have actually considered the topic notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works of their own that focus upon it—without incentive, promotion, or other influence by people connected to the topic matter." – North America1000 09:19, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
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 * 'Keep Significant leader in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:16, 23 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment – There is no guideline or policy that provides presumed notability for Mormon subjects or leaders. Subjects that the LDS church considers to be noteworthy are not automatically notable as per Wikipedia's standards. Multiple, independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage about the subject are needed to qualify notability and an article. Such subjects do not get a free pass for an article without said independent coverage, and personal opinion that a subject is notable by default per being a leader in the LDS church is not backed by any Wikipedia notability guidelines. North America1000 09:53, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, w umbolo   ^^^  09:19, 24 August 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, w umbolo   ^^^  09:39, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of general authorities of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Proposals to exempt LDS leaders from the WP:GNG have consistently failed to achieve consensus support (see examples in 2014, 2016, and 2017), so the subject has to be evaluated under WP:GNG. Sources currently in article are not independent under WP:IIS (Ensign, Liahona, lds.org) or not WP:RS ("Grampa Bill") and do not count toward establishing notability. Search does not find WP:SIGCOV in independent reliable sources, only the usual passing mentions in event announcements and brief quotes reprinted from church sources. The subject does not seem to pass WP:GNG. A sensible alternative to deletion is to redirect to List of general authorities of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, where information on the subject already exists. Open to alternatives if in-depth coverage emerges. Bakazaka (talk) 15:55, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of general authorities of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I can't find anything beyond an article in Deseret that ran when he was chosen.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:47, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


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