Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Envision High Schools


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep.  Singu larity  19:36, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Envision High Schools

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While school articles are rarely considered insufficiently notable, this one, right now, is, I think. Delete. --Nlu (talk) 19:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC) 
 * Delete based on WP:CRYSTAL because these are still in the planning stages. No prejudice against recreation at some later point in time. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 17:44, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Changed to keep based on new information provided to me by TerrierFan and added into the article. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 15:58, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kubigula (talk) 04:22, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete until implemented, and then, being high schools, they will likely be suitable for inclusion. 04:30, 14 December 2007 (UTC) Change to keep, per the substantial difference since last time I saw it. Nicely referenced. J- ſtan TalkContribs 20:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. The article isn't very clear, but from the website it looks like Envision is already operating some charter schools, just not all that are planned.-- Kubigula (talk) 04:35, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

*Delete. Fails WP:N at present, but may satisfy the criteria for inclusion when the schools are actually encompassed by EHS. Littleteddy (talk) 12:50, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletions.   —Littleteddy (talk) 12:50, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Changed to keep after information provided by TerrierFan persuaded me to change my comment. Littleteddy (talk) 10:15, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions.   —Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 17:40, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice toward eventual re-creation when this leaves the scope of WP:CRYSTAL. CRGreathouse (t | c) 21:48, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - WP:CRYSTAL is irrelevant; they are operating 4 high schools now. TerriersFan (talk) 02:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep - I think that there is some misunderstanding above. This is a management body for charter high schools akin to a school district. They have been operating since June 2002 and presently manage three schools with five more planned. We have always regarded schools management bodies as notable and there are plenty of sources here from which the page can be expanded. TerriersFan (talk) 02:13, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep This is an extremely notable effort that has established and is seeking to expand a network of charter schools in the San Francisco area. This is NOT a high scool; it is more comparable to a school district. This is NOT a WP:CRYSTAL issue; the organization exists, the school's exists, and more are on their way. As demonstrated by the ample reliable and verifiable sources included in the article -- including documentation of over $10 million in "investments" from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation since 2003 -- the Notability standard is clearly satisfied. I would strongly suggest that all those who had voted delete, based on an utterly false understanding of the program, should revisit the article and reconsider their vote. Alansohn (talk) 07:50, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. The editing by TerriersFan and Alansohn has clarified what Envision is, and notability appears pretty clear now.-- Kubigula (talk) 16:56, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - the support from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is enough to make this organisation notable. Terraxos (talk) 02:08, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.