Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Epidemiology of suicide


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep.  MBisanz  talk 08:03, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Epidemiology_of_suicide
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The article seems redundant to the suicide article, like a POV fork. Few or none of the sources actually address the subject matter, and few or even none of the sources are reliable. I tried working on it, starting by deleting a L O T of unsourced stuff, but what is left I can't see ever becoming encyclopedic. Maybe a sentence or two can be integrated into the suicide article (which, when all the questionable stuff has been removed, will have a section on this longer than the article itself...). It seems like a completely unsalvagable mess to me. Dendlai (talk) 12:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't think this sounds like, strictly speaking, an AfD nom. Tell me if I'm wrong, but it sounds as if the nom proposes a merge back into Suicide, which doesn't require a discussion here. Ray (talk) 13:42, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You may be right. I just turned Suicide and evolution into a redirect to suicide because it was completely unsourced, fringey and... less than good. I may have been entirely right to do that with this article too, since there is nothing worth merging into the main article IMO. That was a very short article though; this is still 18k long. Erasing it all and making it a redirect seemed a wee bit bold to me, even though I think it's the only sensible solution, and doing that would be much the same as deleting it. Hence why I brought it here. Dendlai (talk) 14:36, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Redirect back to suicide article. Far too much like original research and point of view fork to be worth keeping, the epidemiology section of the Suicide article covers the matter in a far more encyclopaedic way. Maybe this article would go into Wikiversity. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 14:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep The subject is wide enough and there are enough sources available, to have the general article and this one as well. There are many valid perspectives. DGG (talk) 01:55, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep: article history suggests that nobody has bothered to update the statistics per the December 2008 issue of the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, but that study and other more recent findings have clearly been in the news. Bias should be corrected soon enough. Ottre 02:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, seems like a reasonable topic. Although care should be taken to avoid violating WP:SYNTH. Stifle (talk) 18:49, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Regular editing should be able to address valid concerns raised here. Lede should be expanded to highlight the rest of the article's content as well. -- Banj e  b oi   20:26, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep A possible merger shouldn't be discussed here.--Sloane (talk) 02:18, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.