Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Epilogue (TV series)


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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 21:06, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Epilogue (TV series)

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Article about a television show, which is completely unreferenced and has been tagged as such for over a decade. To be fair, at the time this was created in 2010, we did hand television shows an automatic presumption of notability, regardless of the state of sourcing in the article, as long as it was possible to verify that the show existed -- but that rule has since been tightened up considerably, and a television show's eligibility for a Wikipedia article is now much more clearly tied to whether it clears WP:GNG on the sources. But there are no footnotes here, and I can't find anything better on a Google search, and even in Derek Conway's article his hosting of this show was referenced solely to a YouTube clip from this show, which is not a valid or notability-supporting reference and had to be stripped from there too. And for added bonus, the article is so poorly maintained that the show is apparently still in the same second series it was already airing eleven years ago. As I don't have access to any databases in which I could retrieve archived British or European media coverage from 11 years ago that may not have Googled, I'm perfectly willing to withdraw this if somebody with better access to such resources can find enough to salvage it -- but we don't keep unsourced articles just because it's possible that better sources might exist than anybody has actually found or shown, we keep poorly sourced articles only if better sources are demonstrated to exist. Bearcat (talk) 15:44, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 15:44, 10 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete - From a quick search I found a couple potential sources for this article. and . None of them are very in depth coverage of the programme though. The articles are more about the scandal of a British politician appearing on an Iranian state owned TV channel than the show itself. The article itself seems to be error prone, it says it started in 2001 but is on series 2 (presumably in 2010?) thats a long first series, I assume 2001 was a typo and they meant 2010 but there are no sources I can find to confirm Eopsid (talk) 16:29, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 04:24, 18 December 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  11:07, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Ken Livingstone, where it's mentioned and critically talks about the effect of them hosting the show, while to the uninitiated this text reads as a simple book review programme where someone unfamiliar with Iran might wonder why this has an article.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 19:59, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 15:41, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, not seeing evidence of notability and a redirect to one person may not be the best proposal if there were two alternate hosts. It's also not looking like a particularly significant part of either person's career. Bungle (talk • contribs) 16:15, 1 January 2022 (UTC)


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