Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Episodes of The Real World: Sydney


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The result was delete. Core desat 06:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Episodes of The Real World: Sydney

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Far too much plot information is listed here - clearly doesn't conform to WP:NOT. There is no page created like this for any other Real World season, why is this one necessary for this season? Ejfetters (talk) 08:29, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Article creation is limited to available information on the topic. The fact that this season is currently airing, and there are videos of the episodes at mtv.com is how I was able to attain the episode info.  Such info for past seasons is not as readily available, but if and when it became available, it would be reasonable to create season articles on those as well.  It's not because one is "necessary" and the others are not.  As for WP:NOT#PLOT, I read that passage, and interestingly, it also recommends reading Television episodes, where it says: "While each episode on its own may not qualify for an article, it is quite likely that sources can be found to support a series or season page, where all the episodes in one season (or series) are presented on one page." All I'm doing is creating a season page, as there are many on WP, for series such as Star Trek, Lost, South Park, etc. This is hardly the first season of a TV show to have its own article. Nightscream (talk) 10:22, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. This is a content dispute -- too much plot info is not a valid reason for deletion. Just be bold and cut down the extraneous information. Brad (talk) 15:22, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete but only because The Real World: Sydney already does a great job in summarizing all episodes in sufficient detail. – sgeureka t•c 15:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and suggest that Brad read WP:NOT. --Jack Merridew 16:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * And I suggest you read WP:CIVILITY. WP:NOT refers explicitly to fictional works. The article in question is a reality show, so has no plot. Brad (talk) 17:30, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Where was I uncivil? It's a TV show — "reality" or not — it may not have much of a plot, but WP:NOT still applies. --Jack Merridew 17:37, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - per WP:EPISODE. These sorts of lists should generally be done only if having them in the main article would make that article unwieldly. That does not appear to be the case here. Otto4711 (talk) 19:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions.   —Capitalistroadster (talk) 01:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Handled well in the parent article. Twenty Years 03:52, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, all of this information is in, and is presented better, in the parent article. Lankiveil (talk) 00:43, 12 December 2007 (UTC).
 * Delete per the WP:EPISODE guideline. No compelling reason for an independent article. Eusebeus (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:01, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per the WP:EPISODE guideline. No compelling reason for an independent article. Eusebeus (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:01, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


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