Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Epsilon project


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The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 15:14, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Epsilon project

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Declined speedy; contested prod. I'm a little on the fence about this one, though; this collective doesn't appear to satisfy WP:MUSICBIO. Apparently they have collaborated with some notable artists, but there aren't any notable artists in the group itself. Simply having albums available on iTunes doesn't equal notability, and of the three references (which are really external links), the first two only mention the group's name in passing while the IMDb link doesn't mention them at all. And as far as a charted album, CMJ doesn't appear to qualify per WP:CHARTS. Erpert (let's talk about it) 19:15, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello Erpert,
 * Actually the article about the hip hop workshop for kids is a weekly workshop the group puts on (Kingsley Mannasa also known as Kingsley Garrick) for kids throughout the community and have been flown out to other Police Activity Leagues nationally to perform as well as share their knowledge on how to successfully run workshops. Now in the documentary "Freestyle" the director Kevin reached out to J-pro & Kingsley from the group to be in the documentary. J-pro is known as one of Californias elite emcee battle champions. His scene along with Mos def is one of the most popular scenes in the documentary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOoruUopgpM) As for the group They have worked with many notable Artist and Producers (which is not an easy task without a fanbase) and their notoriety is blossoming. After coming back off a 2 week tour in France, Germany and Switzerland performing in packed venues with DJ Qbert, Max Romeo, BBoy Ivan & Stones throw artist Wildchild their overseas popularity grew. (All this will be noted in their Career). After reaching #7 on the college radio hip hop charts nationally they caught the ear of DJ Vadim from Russia and he reached out to Epsilon to collaborate on a few songs. which they did. "America" which was released on Epsilons album and soon to be released on DJ Vadims album. They have recently been contacted to perform at the Hip Hop Kemp festival in the Czech Republic also negotiations are in progress for another European tour possibly in March. I along with many other people Internationally feel Epsilon Project is a notable hip hop group and deserve a place here . Hopefully this persuades you on their side of the fence.
 * Thank you for your time.
 * Proof of anything you need ( Weekly CMJ chart stats, Flyers and links from overseas shows & Conversations with Booking agencies) can all be presented by email or however you prefer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.129.89.131 (talk) 20:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid you don't get it. A college radio hip-hop chart does not qualify as an adequate music chart per Wikipedia guidelines. And although this workshop has worked with many notable artists, notability isn't inherited. Erpert (let's talk about it) 20:47, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 21:01, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I understand and have deleted the chart 72.129.89.131 (talk) 18:03, 9 November 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:10, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete notability is not inhereted from people they have collaborated with and the group lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. duffbeerforme (talk) 10:34, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
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