Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eric Cheng


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was keep. Sjakkalle (Check!)  07:20, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Eric Cheng
Delete Add/vanity page San Saba 20:40, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, notable photographer per awards and display of work in the Smithsonian. — Adrian~enwiki (talk) 21:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Must keep all articles on people named Cheng. j/k. Keep per Adrian Lamo.  howch e  ng   {chat} 22:30, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per Adrian. Advertising? If I need an expert underwater photographer, would I really look in Wikipedia for a list? Monicasdude 04:59, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Vanity doesn't have to mean advertising.--Urthogie 13:55, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Merge with wetpixel--Urthogie 13:46, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete
 * 1) Ok first, it's a clear autobio vanity page, see history for such gems as "accomplished cellist" etc.
 * 2) He certainly isn't notable beyond his photography, so at the very least either this or wetpixel should be deleted, preferably both.
 * 3) The link to the smithsonian seems to have expired, and I am removing it and mention of his smithsonian display from the article unless someone can get a cached version that mentions him. Even if the Smithsonian thing is true, that does not automatically make him notable.  All he won was the "Animal Antics" category, and it seems like a ton of amateur photographers got their photos into the smithsonian all at once through this contest.  Do they all deserve articles?
 * 4) Of course note that besides this, ALL his media coverage has come from no serious publication or entity viz a viz art or technology, but rather from hobbyist/enthusaist magazines. From WP:BIO: "Published authors, editors, and photographers who have written books with an audience of 5,000 or more or in periodicals with a circulation of 5,000 or more."  This has not been shown to be the case.  Someday he may be notable but now he is just a photography fanboy with forum fanboys.
 * 5) He fails the google test with only 683 hits, searching for +"Eric Cheng" +photography (to avoid other Eric Chengs) -"he has authored many webjournals" (to avoid mirros of WP) -site:wetpixel.com -site:echeng.com (to avoid his own sites). This WP article ranks then ranks second. Dsol 11:32, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Please delete this page. The person who cares about it is Eric Cheng.
 * Comment: Sorry, my vote stands. As a photographer, I adjudge this person putatively notable in the absence of compelling evidence to the contrary, and in light of evidence supporting notability. I agree it needs some cleanup, and that Wetpixel may be worth deleting. : ). — Adrian~enwiki (talk) 21:02, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * With all due and duly respectful deference to your judgement as a photographer, what serious piece of evidence do you find convincing in establishing Cheng's notability? The fact that his shots of "animal antics" won an amateur photography contest that got his stuff up for a short time in the smithsonian along with many others?  Or maybe his popularity in web forums?  Dsol 21:18, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep, his site is the #3 google hit for "underwater digital" . Kappa 11:54, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I get #10 following that link. Dsol 11:59, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.