Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erica Hoesch

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Keep Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:14, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Erica Hoesch
This appears to have been created for personal reasons, perhaps by an an editor who was personally involved with the subject. Not verifiable. Willmcw 18:05, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

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Note that I did not create the page in question, but merely added to it.

Willmcw appears to be involved with anti-racist groups (Public Eye, Chrip Berlet, anti-LaRouche groups) and has politically motivated reasons for recommending deletion, including a desire to protect one of their sources. It seems wrong to allow biased sources to dominate content on Wikipedia for personal political reasons.

Additional information on this page can be verified by multiple public sources, and I am curious as to what information Willmcw feels is "not verifiable". Specifics would help.

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A short list of sources, using only mainstream and/or anti-racist information:


 * Beyond A Dead Man's Deeds (pdf)
 * 2002 Anti-Racist Bulletin On Hardwick leaving National Alliance, joining Keystone State Skinheads
 * Bigots In Business
 * Roanoke City Trial Transcript
 * Landlord Denies Allegations Of A Sinister Agenda
 * Virginia Court Case Information System -- Pending case CR05000444-00 in Roanoke County
 * Virginia Court Case Information System -- Pending case GC05003293-00 in Bedford County

Here are a handful of media appearances:

Not on the web:


 * Marriage conducted by Matt Hale -- York Daily Record, January 13, 2002
 * Front page photo of Hardwick waving swastika flag at anti-Israeli demonstration -- Baltimore Sun, May 12, 2002
 * Hardwick as spokeswoman for White Revolution -- "Diversity festival outdraws hate rally", Indianapolis Star, August 25, 2003

I've now spent a good two hours doing this. If I wanted to write a research report on each of these people, I wouldn't have done biographical stubs.
 * Keep I've checked out the links and the info in the article seems to check out. Notability seems minor, at best, but we've included less notable people so this would seem to meet the threshold.Tobycat 23:57, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep I think that, to have a complete understanding of modern white nationalist politics, and particularly my Bill White bio, this entry is necessary, despite the minor notability. -- Baxter2
 * Comment. The article has grown considerably since nominated. Some of the sources are odd, not all of the material is NPOV, and some non-GFDL photos have appeared, but there does appear to enough verifiable info to make an article worthwhile. For the purposes of voting, I assume that User:Baxter2 is the same as the unregistered user who posted some information (but no vote) above. -Willmcw 18:37, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment.  I am that user.  Specific criticisms would be appreciated.  Why don't you remove your delete from the article?
 * Specific criticisms are best dealt with in the talk page of the article. I don't feel comfortable simply removing the VfD nomination once voting has begun. However it appears that the result is likely to be "keep". Cheers, -Willmcw 21:48, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
 * Willmcw has handled this properly. Once a vfd nomination has been made, even if the article is later improved or expanded to address the concerns of the nominator, the vfd process should be carried to its conclusion. -- BD2412 talk 21:54, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC)
 * Keep --Simon Cursitor 07:34, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. Borderline notability. JamesBurns 07:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.  Please do not edit this page .